Stop Chasing $1,000: Make Your First Dollar In Music
Every independent artist wants to know how to make money from their music—but maybe we're asking the wrong question.
Instead of worrying about how to make your first $1,000, what can you do to make your first dollar?
In this episode of Not Just Music Podcast, we break down what it really means to approach your music like a business. From selling directly to fans and getting back to hand-to-hand promotion to live performances, sync licensing, websites, merchandise, and other opportunities outside of streaming platforms, there are more ways to make money with your music than many artists realize.
We also talk about why simply uploading music isn't enough. Artists have to be willing to get outside, meet people, promote themselves, invest in their brand, take risks, and put their music in front of actual consumers.
Most importantly, we discuss the mindset behind it all. Before somebody else believes in your music, you have to believe in it enough to sell it.
Your first $1 may not seem like much—but learning how to make that dollar could teach you how to make the next $10, $100, $1,000 and beyond.
If you're serious about turning your music into more than a hobby, this conversation is for you.
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Not just music podcast in a building again. Got
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some dope concepts and dope topics that we've
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been talking about recently and favorably looking
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to aim high when it comes to building artistry
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or building an artist and business mentality
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and all of the little things that come along
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with it. There are a lot of things that, you
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know, that could be talked about. But key is
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helping people. People want questions answered,
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people want things, topics talked about. It ain't
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cases saying you giving away playbills, you just
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giving away honest opinions on things. So honest
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opinion. Some struggle with understanding. the
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path of making money when it comes to being an
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artist. One of the most talked about things because
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a lot of people see only a small side of people
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who actually make money from music. I mean, it's
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not like, you know, there's this big 50 % of
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people are making money off of the same exact
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musical situation. There are so many pieces to
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it that can be considered in this music umbrella.
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But there was a question that came up that was
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really, really, really, really, really compelling
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to me. One was what the first, the main one is
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about money. Like how, again, how much money
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considerably makes you seem or makes you feel
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comfortable to say that you're an artist or a
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music artist. To me, I don't really think it
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comes from just speaking of just saying it just
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because you're a music artist, you're supposed
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to make money. Because to me, it's two different
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situations. You know, here's this music artist,
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but then here's this business situation. You
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know, it's two different situations. You got
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a music artist, you got business over here to
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sell the music of the business, sell the music
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of the artist. It's two different things to separate.
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But to be able to put the power to put them both
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together is a hard situation hard situation,
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so I Broke it down cuz some they basically you
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know You know, what's the what's the road to
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getting just to your first $1 ,000 and making
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music? That's a big topic though. There's a big
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question to say But I'm gonna chop it down. I'm
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gonna chop it way down What can you do to make
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$5? What can you do to make five dollars? Or
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what can you do to make three dollars? I mean,
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what can you make to make a dollar? What can
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you do to make a dollar out of your situation?
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You said you got something. What you got? What
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you got? To add on to that, you said the question
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was, how can I make my first thousand, what'd
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he say, thousand dollars? The first? The first
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thousand. How can you? How can I make my first
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one thousand dollars? So being a musician. Yeah.
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So with music, I say this. The way the technology
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is and the streams are or what not. I would say
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nowadays artists, you might make your money in
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small portions. but you're making something back
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from the music. You might not see a thousand
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up front, but if you base your career off when
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it started to where it's at and you see the money
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that you did make, even though it might've been,
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like you say, $5 here from Streams or $50 for
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a show, whatever, the hustle money, the little
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blesses that you... Don't see that so big because
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you didn't automatically get a thousand right
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up front of your hand. If you look back at it,
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really, you've been making money, a profit, all
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for your money. Not all for your money. You've
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been making a profit off of your talent, your
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music, if you look at it that way. It might just
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come in small portions, but if you calculate
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it all up, and you'll probably notice, man, I
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made a thousand or more with my music, and I
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didn't even notice it. So I think sometimes if
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you look at it like that, like from a long scale,
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from beginnings, like where you started to where
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you at now and you calculate everything, you'll
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be amazed how much you actually profited off
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your music. So I just wanted to add that in,
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because I know a lot of people just get blindsided
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by it all coming at one time. Get what I'm saying?
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So hindsight is... You're looking at little things
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that can get you to a bigger scale, firstly.
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Firstly, you have to look at things from a business
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standpoint. Like I said, let's just say, let's
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not even say a thousand dollars, let's just say
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a dollar. Let's say, what can you do to make
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a dollar? People have to realize that there is
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more than one way to sell music. One way to sell
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music is one way. There are two ways, there are
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three ways, there are four ways, there are five
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ways. There are more ways than one to be able
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to sell your music. And this is, and I give,
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let's start off with the dollar situation. What's
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one way you can make a dollar? So let's do this.
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Say you take, let's be honest. Let's take an
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old school tactic. Take $10. Go buy a pack of
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CDs, literally. Go buy a pack of CDs right now.
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Come home. I'm sure you got a couple songs that
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you've already recorded. You got you a computer
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in there. I'm sure your computer ain't got too
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much that is done currently because, you know,
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you've been running up your phone situation.
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Y 'all love a phone. But you forgot about your
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computer back there. You know, computer still
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got a little, still got a, it still has a CD.
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Disc situation still connected to it. You're
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winning again. And if you're not, I'm sure you
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got about $20 You can get online right now and
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go get you a DVR That can still burn music to
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a CD, right? You take these CDs. Let's say just
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get you 10 get you a little five -pack, right?
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Get you a five -pack Burn these CDs Put your
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content on these CDs get you a get got you a
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printer. I'm sure print your cover out Print
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that cover out get the size dimensions of that
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of the cover that you need cuz there's all on
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the internet get you Good to pull it up say type
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in Google CD You know what? I'm gonna do it for
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y 'all right now What size is the CD insert?
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of a blank CD. It says, let's get a size. I want
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to get this to y 'all. Currently it is 4 .75
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by 4 .75, 120 by 120 millimeters to be exact.
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And the back tray insert is 5 .9. So just say
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six inches by four and a half inches. These are
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things that you need to keep in mind print your
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cover out print your if you want to put a you
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know a back case picture Print it out to these
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are all free to you Do you know I'm sure you
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still got printer ain't cuz y 'all ain't using
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you know I ain't been using printers printer
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sitting back there catching does it still got
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ink in it? But still here's the way I'm going
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at this dog So you print out all of the CD stuff
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that you need create your own situation right
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there in your room Right there in your office,
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right there at your desk at work. Print it all
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out. Take it home. Package these CDs up. Literally,
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just go out to anywhere. Pick a musical situation
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where people are gonna be looking. And who I
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would always say, people who are consumers are
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always around. You just have to know where to
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go. Again, speaking on getting to a dollar. Take
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these CDs with you. Say you got five CDs. Or
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let's just say you got 10 CDs, a pack of 10 CDs.
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You have an opportunity, literally, to make a
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dollar right there on the spot. Well, if you
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choose to sell it for a dollar or you choose
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it to sell it for $5, guess what? If you got
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10 chances, one of those chances are going to
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say yes to that dollar, to that $5, to that $2,
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to that $3. person will say yes. Why am I choosing
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that way, firstly, to say that this is a thing
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that people overlook? Because it is the one that
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is most overlooked. We've talked about it many
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a times, meaning the hand -to -hand, hand -to
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-hand, literally, person -to -person. Not the
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situation of just saying, yes, you do have that
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one way where you saying that, oh, I'm showing
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people my situation on social media and all these
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different platforms. Yeah, that's good. But remember,
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DSP money is not the same as here you go money.
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Here you go when it is right here in your face,
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meaning I can get that dollar right now. I can
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get that two dollars right now. I can get that
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whole dollar right then. That's the part. This
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is the piece to me that bridges the gap of the
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mentality of where people can go make money.
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Where is another place you can make money? I'm
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sure there's many other places. So what is it?
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Another place. Sync. Sync licensing has become
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one of the most unknown situations to artists.
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Most unknown situation to artists. Why? Because
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music does more than just, you can do more than
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just have music on DSPs. As I said, you got CDs.
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Sink licenses. Sink licensing is when they take
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your music and they sink it to something that
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is media. It could be in a commercial, it could
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be in a movie, it could be in a TV show. Why
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some of us never get to that point is because
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we don't send our music everywhere. To be able
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to make money. Why are we just picking DSPs?
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I don't know. Wow, it's more to it than the DSP
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world and The case of saying you want to take
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it further people. Oh, man. I want to go further.
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Here are your further points. So again CD Sync
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licensing sync licensing is probably the most
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hitting because a lot of people don't want to
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talk about it If you haven't looked up sync licensing
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go on Google currently or whatever model you
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use to search things type in sync licensing sync
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license a license or licensing one of the most
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hidden to music artists and trust me there are
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plenty platforms to run your music through and
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When I say run your music through some of these
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people are looking for music every single day
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every single week every single month And you're
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just not tying yourself into them But what do
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I mean by that? Why I'm saying it? money There's
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more money in sync licensing than there is in
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DSPs. Sync licensing. Why does sync licensing
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get overlooked? Because it's easy to get overlooked.
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Because nobody knows how to get their music to
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the right people to be able to get sync licensing
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done. But again, use Google. Use Google. What's
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another situation to do with my music? To make
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it be a situation where it's Sellable. And this
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is one of the ones that I've, you know, learned
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to cherish a lot, is literally selling on your
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website. Straight to the consumer. Straight to
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consumer. It's hard to do, but it's actually
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easy to do. The reason why it's hard to do is
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because DSPs run the world. Literally run the
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world. Everybody wants to go to Apple Music.
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Everybody wants to go to Spotify. Everybody goes
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to these different platforms to listen to their
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music. The reason why I think that the situation
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with websites has become so little for music
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artists, because they look at it as the same
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situation where I just spoke on DSPs, things
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of that nature. DSPs really, really, really.
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Have taken over like you just spoke on the DSPs
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are one of the most hidden. situations that people
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think that, you know, it can get you somewhere
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literally, but at the same time, you have to
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watch your moves with the DSPs because you don't
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really always have control over DSP situations,
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but the website situation you do. The reason
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why I say websites make more sense in a straight
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to consumer world is because you don't have to
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wait for a DSP to drop your material. Literally,
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you can give it straight to the people how you
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want to, when you want to. It may not even ever
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have to reach a DSP if you don't want it to.
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But for the sake of, is it one of those things
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that is available? Yes. Yes, it is. So now let
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me ask a question. And you've... dealt with DSPs
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for years now. And there are a lot of things
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that DSPs can't offer people, but are there some
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things within DSPs that you feel that they lack?
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honest. Because I think it's really it goes back
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to what you said. It really is about the hand
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to hand sales that really determines how bad
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artists want success or the money to me. So I
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think that it run in that way, the operation
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running that way. I feel like it's good to make
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artists want to hustle. It shows you how much
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you want to get it. like hand to hand, like we've
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talked about shows, going out there, playing
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your music, you know what I'm saying? In front
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of crowds. Like, I think that's what's missing.
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And I think we've gotten so like post COVID,
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we got so comfortable with just wanting to sit
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in the house and just record music, put it out,
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not be seen, not go out here and do these shows,
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et cetera, et cetera. Now you see people coming
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back, doing shows and you know, you get lost
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in the sauce. Now, you used to stand in the house,
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you used to stand locked away, you know what
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I'm saying? So like where people don't even know
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who you are, who is this artist, et cetera. So
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I like how the system is because it makes you
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go try other options. But to me, it made me try
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other options, okay? I'm not seeing enough money
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how I want this way. Okay, let me, it's time
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to hit the streets. It's time to... maybe get
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in some showcases like and then this opens up
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a door like getting them getting on shows like
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and like Anytime you have a product to sale and
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you're doing showcases. You're doing free events
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opportunity events You got to think of it as
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a money situation too because you are brand and
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you have music for sale on our platforms so people
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can go back and purchase your songs so people
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like that mindset of I'm not getting paid for
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this show it's not true just because they're
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not paying you for the show does not mean that
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they can't go back google you go on apple music
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stream the heck out of your song and send it
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to their friend that's how you make your money
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doing the free shows to me that's your back end
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for participating and showing yourself and hopefully
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enjoying doing it, broadcasting your talent,
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your gift, and your brand at the same time. So
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that's how I look at it, bro. I think it makes
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us mature, man up, woman up, and actually hit
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the streets, man, and find other ways, like you
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say, hand -to -hand, CDs. It makes you think
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of new ways to get the dollar, man. It's so simple
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that we overlook every day, but it's right there.
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It's the best method, honestly. These are these
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are the reason why it has to be Like you bring
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it up did that point makes it more believable
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and Why it should be Yeah, things need to get
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back to or I'm saying get back to things need
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to be just basically real time realistic in somebody's
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face Because you love it. You know what I'm saying?
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Like, where's the love for it? You have to show
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people that you believe in your own stuff. That's
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basically what this is getting down to. You have
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to be the one to believe in it. If you ain't
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gonna believe in it or go show it to somebody
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that you show them that you believe in it, it'll
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never be a thing where you like really expand.
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And that's basically like what I'm saying to
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make that first dollar. If you show somebody
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That look, let me show you this. Let me show
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you this. Let me show you this. Let me show you
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this. Let me show you what I got. Let me show
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you what I got here. The salesman mentality.
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I hate to say it, like Walmart, like these grocery
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stores, like their hustle is in your face. Literally
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in your face. You drive by these grocery stores,
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these retail stores daily. You see them processing
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orders daily. What are they doing? putting it
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in people's faces, literally putting it in their
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face. So that to me, to get to that thousand
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dollar mark that we were speaking of in the beginning,
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you got to have people believing in it first.
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Like it don't have anything to do with the case
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of saying how good that music was. You got to
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make them believe in it. That is good because
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they ain't heard the music yet. You know, what
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are you giving them to show them? Like, look,
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this is what I believe in. I want you to check
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it out. You know, it's only two dollars. It's
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only one dollar. But I believe in this very much
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so because I'm standing out here right now or
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wherever you're at, or church or whatever event
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you're at, what have it be or what come of what
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may with it. Be there. Be there. But see, people
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don't want to go to those things because, oh,
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they ain't paying me. It ain't a book show. They
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ain't paying me for it. But you could be missing
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out. on a blessing. I'ma just point it out. You
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go to a free show and you might come out of it.
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Oh, Usher's manager was in the crowd, saw him.
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He wants you to come to the remaining of the
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R &B tour with him. Like people don't think of
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like stuff like that. Like, you know what I'm
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saying? Like things happen like that. But the
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key is you will never know unless you go out
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there and try it. That's what, like, period.
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Like, if you don't try it, how will you know?
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Like, you will never know, like, and I always
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had a saying, I'd rather fail trying than not
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try at all. You know what I'm saying? I'd rather
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say I tried and came up short than not even tried
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it or attempted and not even know how the outcome
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would be. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes,
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like, that one thing the devil is in your ear
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saying, don't do, maybe your blessing, maybe
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your breakthrough. That might open the door.
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That's it right there. That's the part. That's
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when the risk comes in. And it's like, yes, that
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risk, as DeWine said, you risk a chance doing
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day -to -day stuff every day. Buying food, doing
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this, doing that, but you won't even risk putting
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money into like, okay. Oh, I need these dancers
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for the upgrade my performances. I need this
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band to upgrade my performance. Maybe that'll
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add spice to my music and make them want to go
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and search me now. Because now the song is catchier,
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the vibe is smoother, you know, yeah, my performances
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are nicer. It all goes together. So now they
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want to see who this is. Let me go back and check
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his music out. Boom. You know what I'm saying?
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But you would never know that if you're tight
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with your money, if you, you know what I'm saying,
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want to spend it on everything else but you.
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And think about that. You love you so much. You
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love your brand so much. You believe in your
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brand so much, but you're scared to take a chance
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or risk for yourself or your brand. That's the
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part that loses make makes people lose right
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there. Now, if you if you're if you're planning
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your game, when we talked about making that be
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your thing as far as your, you know, well, let's
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just go, let's give an example for a release,
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right? Say you're releasing a song, right? You
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just basically explained it again, what they
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need to do to get the song out there. Not even
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just, if it's a t -shirt, whatever you're, you
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know, whatever you're selling. I don't want to
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just say that it's just music because you need
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to be more than just music as an artist. You
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know, you need to, if it's things that you can
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sell of you, that present your brand or they
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present what you're doing, that should be the
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mentality to have is to get it out to people.
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Yeah, the internet is big, but the internet is
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only just a piece of the pie. Everybody don't
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be on the internet all day. Some people be literally
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out here in these streets riding around. You
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got truck drivers, you got bus drivers, you got
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all the, they don't, they can't be tied into
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their phone situation all day. They can't see
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social media stuff all day. Some people don't
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tie themselves into social media. So how do you
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reach them people? You gotta get in their faces.
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They coming out of Walmart right now. They coming
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out of Target right now. They walking out of
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these grocery stores right now. They walking
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out gas stations right now. And you need to hang
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around people that are similar to what you trying
00:25:05.890 --> 00:25:08.950
to be and love what you love. So if you, you
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need to be around music lovers. If you into music,
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you need to be around music. It makes sense.
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Like, you know, if you a music lover, you need
00:25:16.289 --> 00:25:19.000
to be around people that love music. As an artist
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too, this is coming, because it's on my heart
00:25:23.059 --> 00:25:26.539
to say it, but as a music artist, a lot of us
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get distracted by our friends, our family, our
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strangers, and we want to hang around these people.
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But no disrespect, these people don't even have
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.720
a love for music. Their loves are not the same
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as yours. Oh, so they go in another direction.
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They might be into the street life. True. And
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you're really serious about this music. You need
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to be around musicians like. I was around a band
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:58.420
yesterday and just hearing the stories like me,
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us just talking like we rehearse and just talking
00:26:01.059 --> 00:26:04.079
about music after. I'm saying my boy from New
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York, shout out to him. A couple of people I
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met. Like, good brothers, man, talking about
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history of music, bands, like we just started
00:26:12.500 --> 00:26:14.619
talking about music, music, music, and life,
00:26:14.740 --> 00:26:16.519
you know what I'm saying? And those are the people
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that you need to be around, the consumers you
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need to be around that have that love and passion
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:24.599
for like you, because they're going to understand
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:27.779
what you're giving more than the people that
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don't even have the same loves or viewpoints
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:36.230
you have when it comes to that. So if you have
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an idea, the biggest thing to do, especially
00:26:39.650 --> 00:26:41.990
for, again, to get into that dollar amount you
00:26:41.990 --> 00:26:47.730
want, put yourself in places where you don't
00:26:47.730 --> 00:26:51.349
normally go. That's simply, you know, still gonna
00:26:51.349 --> 00:26:53.490
come down to it to me, because you have to show
00:26:53.490 --> 00:26:55.549
yourself approved. Showing yourself approved
00:26:55.549 --> 00:26:56.849
comes with hitting the ground. You gotta hit
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the ground going and moving places and taking
00:27:00.569 --> 00:27:04.150
your stuff places where people aren't, you know,
00:27:04.190 --> 00:27:07.410
Aren't expecting you to be you know, I mean whether
00:27:07.410 --> 00:27:09.509
physical you could be going to a show I mean,
00:27:09.509 --> 00:27:12.309
it's plenty shows to go to, you know basketball
00:27:12.309 --> 00:27:15.410
games NBA games like catch people coming out
00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:19.430
of the out of the games like I mean is What makes
00:27:19.430 --> 00:27:25.029
your show stand out different I'm sorry, but
00:27:25.029 --> 00:27:27.710
like like speaking of shows man. It's funny.
00:27:27.710 --> 00:27:30.710
I was gonna see you this video, but the baby
00:27:30.710 --> 00:27:35.079
Performed a summer jam recently And he was doing
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:37.839
the backtracks and stuff like that. And we talked
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.759
about this cuffing the mic thing. We talked about
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:43.380
this cuffing the mic thing. I know it's another
00:27:43.380 --> 00:27:47.259
episode. But he was just going on this rant about
00:27:47.259 --> 00:27:50.180
his sound, right? Like he's going on this rant.
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:52.460
Like he spent majority of his time going on the
00:27:52.460 --> 00:27:55.180
rant. Like, hey DJ, get this right, man. We gotta
00:27:55.180 --> 00:27:57.539
get this right. Like wasting time performing
00:27:57.539 --> 00:27:59.720
or whatnot. The fans are waiting for you to just
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.809
get into this song. And they're coming to see
00:28:02.809 --> 00:28:05.230
what you have to offer. Get what I'm saying?
00:28:05.390 --> 00:28:08.710
And the whole time, it's not the mic, bro. It's
00:28:08.710 --> 00:28:11.910
your cuff. You're cuffing the mic. You're cuffing
00:28:11.910 --> 00:28:14.470
it. This was messing your audio up. And it's
00:28:14.470 --> 00:28:18.150
like you educate yourself to own these things
00:28:18.150 --> 00:28:21.630
as music artists also like present yourself the
00:28:21.630 --> 00:28:24.690
correct way. If you want people to buy into what
00:28:24.690 --> 00:28:28.690
you have to and that goes for the music, anything.
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.900
You know what I'm saying? Present yourself at
00:28:31.900 --> 00:28:34.579
the manner that you want people to respect you.
00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:36.859
Like, you know what I'm saying? Treat everything
00:28:36.859 --> 00:28:41.539
as gold. Like everything. This all goes hand
00:28:41.539 --> 00:28:44.759
in hand. Like, you know, he could have gained
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.319
some new fans by having a hell of a performance,
00:28:47.579 --> 00:28:49.220
an excellent performance that day. You never
00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:53.359
know. Could have got a new fan. Every opportunity
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:57.009
is a chance for you to show who you are. and
00:28:57.009 --> 00:28:59.769
show what you have to offer, your business, your
00:28:59.769 --> 00:29:03.609
brand. So take it serious. That's my opinion.
00:29:04.049 --> 00:29:06.710
No shade to the baby. As with any artist, you
00:29:06.710 --> 00:29:09.890
know, learn the techniques of holding mics, learning
00:29:09.890 --> 00:29:14.329
your audio. All these things matter when it comes
00:29:14.329 --> 00:29:19.849
to your brand. And also take your time in building
00:29:19.849 --> 00:29:23.829
your... you're what you have to take your time.
00:29:23.869 --> 00:29:27.009
Don't rush it. Make it make sense because this
00:29:27.009 --> 00:29:29.329
is a business to, you know, y 'all got to make
00:29:29.329 --> 00:29:32.049
it make it make sense now. Can't just be just
00:29:32.049 --> 00:29:34.950
figuring it out as you're going too much. You
00:29:34.950 --> 00:29:37.410
know, there are some tactics that you can, you
00:29:37.410 --> 00:29:39.829
know, catch on the fly. But a lot of the situation
00:29:39.829 --> 00:29:42.970
really falls into a very big business situation.
00:29:43.190 --> 00:29:45.789
A business model is very important. You know,
00:29:45.869 --> 00:29:47.650
whether if you got to go to school, get on the
00:29:47.650 --> 00:29:51.410
Internet and learn. Business techniques, it would
00:29:51.410 --> 00:29:56.329
definitely help move your brand a whole lot further
00:29:56.329 --> 00:29:59.230
to get to that thousand dollars faster. You know,
00:29:59.269 --> 00:30:01.130
again, there's nothing wrong going to business
00:30:01.130 --> 00:30:03.130
school. That's another that's another level up
00:30:03.130 --> 00:30:05.849
for you. So it can be more than just music. You
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know, that's another that's another level of
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income towards your music. So, you know, take
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that part seriously, too. And again, it's not
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about being perfect. It's about being great.
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You know. Just be great at what you do. Show
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people that you know what you're talking about.
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Show people that you love what you're doing.
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You know, take that that part. Take that part
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more serious than anything. You know, this is
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the love of it for me. I don't see no passion
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or love for you. How am I going to buy into it?
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Thank you. Thank you. I'm not going to buy into
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it. You're not taking yourself serious. How do
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you expect me to take you serious? Thank you.
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Simply put, if you if you say if you're serious,
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this episode will make sense to you. If you're
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serious, because again, is the thousand dollars
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mark is not about a thousand dollars more. It's
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not about a dollar more. I mean, you can get
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to those marks. If you if you learn to fall in
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love with this this process, you know, firstly,
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I mean, if you if you ain't in love with it,
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don't don't don't try to. I mean, as they used
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to do, don't come over here trying to make no
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money out of me. I probably invested more to
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my brand more than I've gotten back, man. I said
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I'm not gotten back, but. That's how much I love
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it and how much of the opportunities and how
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much I believe in my brand. And that's a good
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thing when I can say I've invested more because
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I guarantee you, the money that I made from it,
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I probably put it back into my brand some way.
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You know, money I made back from my brand, guess
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what? I'm probably looking for a better opportunity,
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you know, to broadcast. And that's how I do.
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I set goals and I check them off. And it's always,
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I always want to go to next. about like the next
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level, like school, you wanna go to the next,
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.960
I wanna go to the next level. Okay, I've tried
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:50.460
it. How can I overdo that? You know what I'm
00:31:50.460 --> 00:31:53.440
saying? Okay, I've done this. Let me try this.
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:56.519
I'm just that risk taker. And somebody told me
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one time, man, you are not scared to take risks,
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bro. And eventually taking those risks become
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blessings. Blessings come in and then stuff just
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start falling in your lap. Because you took that
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one big risk. You know what I'm saying? Now all
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these blessings start pouring in and you ain't
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got a wrist like that no more. You know what
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I'm saying? So you have to go through something.
00:32:18.339 --> 00:32:21.039
You have to get uncomfortable to get comfortable
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.579
with this music and everything. You have to get
00:32:24.579 --> 00:32:27.440
uncomfortable sometimes to get to that comfortable
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:32.519
stage. Every win that I got in this music situation
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.200
came from something that was very uncomfortable.
00:32:35.420 --> 00:32:39.259
So just realize, you know, it's not going to
00:32:39.259 --> 00:32:42.869
be like It's not pretty at all sometimes sometimes
00:32:42.869 --> 00:32:45.589
it just be like what the world but the the blessing
00:32:45.589 --> 00:32:47.410
will sometimes come in the midst of that what
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the world and Just remembering again Love love
00:32:52.069 --> 00:32:54.150
it love what you do y 'all love what you do If
00:32:54.150 --> 00:32:56.230
you don't love it most most cases if you hear
00:32:56.230 --> 00:32:58.289
you listen to this this long you love it You
00:32:58.289 --> 00:32:59.730
wanted to know something you want to know something
00:32:59.730 --> 00:33:02.410
new you wanted to add something to what you already
00:33:02.410 --> 00:33:09.329
done Lastly We are not going to make it make
00:33:09.329 --> 00:33:13.009
sense from a point where it is, you know, from
00:33:13.009 --> 00:33:14.990
what you're doing. We don't know which part of
00:33:14.990 --> 00:33:17.910
music you're in, but just remember all of these
00:33:17.910 --> 00:33:22.549
tactics fall under the same umbrella. Same exact
00:33:22.549 --> 00:33:25.910
umbrella. It's no different in too many business
00:33:25.910 --> 00:33:28.230
models. It's just finding a business model that
00:33:28.230 --> 00:33:31.690
works for you. All right. So, we out of here.
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Not just music podcast. I mean, it's a good month
00:33:35.650 --> 00:33:40.009
of August now. We're definitely in the midst
00:33:40.009 --> 00:33:44.509
of school, getting back in in many places. So,
00:33:45.369 --> 00:33:47.690
if kids are going back to school, blessings to
00:33:47.690 --> 00:33:50.750
the kids that are starting back their journeys
00:33:50.750 --> 00:33:54.309
and getting on that path of education again.
00:33:55.089 --> 00:34:00.670
Also, those that are tapped into the radio station,
00:34:01.190 --> 00:34:03.849
NJMP radio, we appreciate the love. We haven't
00:34:03.849 --> 00:34:06.029
been over there in a minute, but the spins are
00:34:06.029 --> 00:34:08.650
definitely still coming in. So it's most likely
00:34:08.650 --> 00:34:12.210
due to just being consistent here too. So thank
00:34:12.210 --> 00:34:17.130
you for listening into that. Also those that
00:34:17.130 --> 00:34:20.349
are in the disability world, disability community,
00:34:20.730 --> 00:34:24.010
those are the autism, autistic world, autism
00:34:24.010 --> 00:34:27.059
community. Much love to y 'all. Again, this isn't
00:34:27.059 --> 00:34:29.699
against anybody that isn't, but for the sake
00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:31.820
of, that's what my heart is because I have twin
00:34:31.820 --> 00:34:36.139
girls. So at the end of the day, we always want
00:34:36.139 --> 00:34:39.239
to still send blessings out to everybody. Everybody.
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.420
Bless everybody. Please keep blessing your prayers,
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.599
people. We keep y 'all in our prayers daily.
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:48.619
Please pray for the wine. Please pray for Quincy,
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you know what I'm saying? And our journey as
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.340
we go through this thing called life every day.
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you know just cover like your blessings man cover
00:34:57.179 --> 00:35:00.780
us man and just wish the well wish well for us
00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:03.559
and prosperity you know i'm saying and what we
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:06.159
do man because we do wish it and be our thankful
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.699
to everybody that tunes in to us here and not
00:35:08.699 --> 00:35:13.519
just music podcast also to add my last thing
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so i can get off here almost 40 minutes y 'all
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:22.360
have a very small window to make sense of all
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.760
of this that you're gonna be doing. It's gonna
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:30.320
take a, you know, time period of your life to
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.059
do it, you know, meaning it may take from 25
00:35:33.059 --> 00:35:36.820
to 35. It may take from 30 to 42. Like, I don't
00:35:36.820 --> 00:35:38.519
know where it's gonna come at, but just make
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:42.840
sure that you have a strong mentality and your
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:44.760
mind is in the right place. I speak on the mind
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a lot because the mind is really the place where
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.429
a lot of stuff gets lost. Stop losing everything
00:35:49.429 --> 00:35:53.469
in your brain. Stop making everything. Everything
00:35:53.469 --> 00:35:56.610
you think about daily, those things that you
00:35:56.610 --> 00:35:59.110
go through, things, stuff like that. Everything
00:35:59.110 --> 00:36:01.710
isn't going to travel from the next situation
00:36:01.710 --> 00:36:03.889
to the next situation. You just got to make it
00:36:03.889 --> 00:36:05.809
make sense for it. If it's that time and something
00:36:05.809 --> 00:36:08.309
is going wrong at that moment, just make it for
00:36:08.309 --> 00:36:10.269
that moment. It's not going to kill you. You
00:36:10.269 --> 00:36:12.110
got to start with all these gyms, man. Listen,
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I just want to say one thing. A lot of things
00:36:13.710 --> 00:36:15.590
that I was worried about two, three months ago,
00:36:15.710 --> 00:36:19.260
guess what? I ain't going through it. Oh, man,
00:36:19.260 --> 00:36:21.380
I thought I was gonna lose this. I still got
00:36:21.380 --> 00:36:23.579
it three months later. Like, you know what I'm
00:36:23.579 --> 00:36:25.619
saying? And then it's like, man, that risk, that
00:36:25.619 --> 00:36:28.539
one risk that I didn't take on the business tip
00:36:28.539 --> 00:36:32.219
or whatever, my brand, now I'm like, man, I coulda
00:36:32.219 --> 00:36:34.280
did that back then. You know, it's little things
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.500
that I be like, man, I coulda did that, cause
00:36:36.500 --> 00:36:40.340
wow, look at me. I didn't lose that. And I wasted,
00:36:40.420 --> 00:36:44.059
I lost out on that opportunity. So don't be like
00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:45.940
that. You don't wanna be like that. You don't
00:36:45.940 --> 00:36:48.579
want to have that regret. So go for it. You know
00:36:48.579 --> 00:36:50.019
what I'm saying? Like you say, it's a mindset
00:36:50.019 --> 00:36:54.219
thing. So again, that's the part to add to your
00:36:54.219 --> 00:36:57.360
prayers too. Pray for your mind. Pray for your
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.760
mindset. Pray that you have a strong mentality.
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A lot of people don't have that to be thankful
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.659
for. If you already have a strong mentality,
00:37:06.739 --> 00:37:08.960
be thankful for it. Get up and tell God, thank
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.699
you for that. Because a lot of people don't have
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that part. So make sure that you think about
00:37:14.619 --> 00:37:17.110
that. and keep your mind in a good place. And
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guess what? We're done. So until next time, we
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love y 'all. See you next time or hear y 'all
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or you will hear us next time. All right, peace.