Faith, Mental Health, and AI: Staying Grounded

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All right, what's going on, people? Not just

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Music Podcast. It's your boy, Duann Barino, once

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again. But this time on behalf of AICPG, that

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is AI Career Pivot Group, if you did not know.

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We are back again. We have something very excellent

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that is coming up in a few weeks here that we

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want to... get ahead of and Promote it correctly

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and get it to the people like we want to so First

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things first. I have some special guest here

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with me again. A lot of us have already been

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here for the AI Direction that I've been taking

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not just music podcast with adding a ICPG to

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it This time I will be introducing first Rhonda

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Wilson How are you doing today? I'm doing well.

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I'm doing good. Good. Excellent. So with the

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AIT meeting that is about to take place, a lot

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of people don't know who you are. So I want to

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start out by asking you to slightly explain who

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Rhonda Wilson is and which direction of AI you

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are choosing. Well, I'm literally just Rhonda

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Wilson, a woman of God who loves the Lord, loves

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God's people. And when it comes to AI, I just

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want to be able to encourage people that if they

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have a foundation, they don't have anything to

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fear when it comes to AI. Excellent. Next, Michelle

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Tillman in the house. If I'm not mistaken, Tillman

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is your last name, correct? Yes. Okay. Michelle

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Tillman is in the house, people. I want you to

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explain who you are as well and the meaning of

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your AI position. All right. I am Michelle Tillman.

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I am a licensed clinical mental health therapist.

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I'm going on my 10 years in doing this. It's

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actually my second career. I am a mother of four,

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a grandmother to one and a half. I'm expecting

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one in November. My position with AI is that

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it's here. And I think it's not taking advantage

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of it, but utilizing it to further what we're

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already working on. In the capacity of a therapist,

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you know, we can't take away the human connection

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or the human relationship needed to be. But in

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mental health, AI can be a tool. not something

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that just takes over. Okay, well since right,

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since you've already said that, I'm gonna go

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ahead and jump right in on a question with you.

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Okay. So, speaking of the human core things,

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how can clinicals ethically use AI without losing

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that human core? All right, because it's two

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different things, right? We have to remember

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that therapy is about relationship, human relationship,

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right? we're dealing with emotions, connections,

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clinicians want to develop an alliance with that

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person. So when we start using technology more,

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are leading on more of technology for a wellness

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or a health check or a diagnosis, it takes away

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from the human connection, right? So my part

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is to continue to connect Humanly, right? Okay.

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May I can't give you it can give you a diagnosis.

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It can tell you symptoms But as far as being

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well and getting on a pathway of wellness, it

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takes human connection So it's not a battle against

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it. How can we? Unify it. How can we make it

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all working together? True Yeah, okay Minister

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around us. I think there's a minister right minister

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around if I'm not mistaken I can say that is

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that safe to say okay minister around I have

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a question for you as well. Kind of in the sense

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of foundation, you know, why should we not be

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afraid of AI and how does our foundation in God

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help us navigate it? Because when you have a

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firm foundation in God, it's one of those things

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where we don't have anything to fear. We are

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anchored. in the Lord. So when we have things

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like AI and its digital age moving as fast as

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it is, it's nothing to fear. We just have to

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be able to look at it and be able to identify

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what's good, what's evil, and be able to understand

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that everything that comes across our path, we

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may not be able to use it. And that's okay too.

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But when we have a foundation in God, then we're

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not moved and swayed by everything that comes

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and we're able to use the resources and tools

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that are out there and not have to walk in fear

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behind it. Very true. Let me say this too, right

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here. For those that already are tied into Not

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Just Music podcast, that's one of the things

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that I've explained a lot when it comes to not

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being afraid. You know, you're human. You are

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a human first before... There was a human first

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before there was AI. Right. God made us. So that

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is the biggest thing that you can stand on in

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the first place. There's nothing to be afraid

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of when it comes to AI. Some things are tricky,

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but don't allow the tricky parts to sway you

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or make you feel scared. You know, those are

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a few things, especially with music AI. I know

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a lot of us have... you know, try to deal with

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that, and the differences and changes and things

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that come along with it, just like learning a

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rule book, but all for the sake of knowing that

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A .I .S .S. is nothing that we should be afraid

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of. Okay, next question. So, back to you, Michelle.

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For people who are, I'm gonna still ask this

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question. For people who are resistant, or even

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feel full of AI? It's the same question in a

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sense. But what are some ways AI can actually

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support mental health care rather than replace

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a therapist? Because some people are like, hey,

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here's AI, and then here's the therapist. So

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how do we make that make sense? Well, I can understand

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the resistance. I think it's out there. But I

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also know that clients come up with a lot of,

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that's the battle with insurance, right? There's

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a battle with affordability. There's a battle

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with Medicare. There's a battle with a lot of

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things that keeps, that stuff already keeps people

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from coming in seeking mental health. But you

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know, mental health also has a stigma, right?

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Especially in our culture, right? Take it to

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Jesus, pray about it. Don't tell nobody about

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it. That's the generation I grew up with, right?

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So it is already a common resistant or fear to

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be in mental health. I think you need mental

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health or mental wellness. And then we add AI

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into it. AI would seem to make it easier, right?

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You can talk to this or push in or type in what

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your symptoms are or how you're feeling. And

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it gives you what you need to hear or what you

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want to hear, right? So it's not always a bad

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thing. It's when you start using it to solve

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human issues, right? So I can understand the

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resistance. So I think sometimes that kind of

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goes along in a sense of saying in a situation,

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it assist you versus it being your soul fix because

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A lot of people do look at it in the sense of

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fix my problems. And the good thing is AI, a

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lot of the AI systems are built to go against

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the grain when it comes to trying to fix a personal

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problem in so many ways. It'll give directions,

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but it won't give you the exact thing to be your

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awakening. Right. All right. Real life experiences.

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Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Mr. Rhonda, back to you.

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How can we use AI as a tool without allowing

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it to replace God as our source of wisdom and

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direction? Now, before you answer that, there

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are a couple of things I'm going to add to that.

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So not only just to say could just saying replace

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God in a spiritual manner, you know, complete

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spiritual manner as well, not even just to say

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could just You know, we all should believe in

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God, but there are certain spiritualities that

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some people who will be using this would probably

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want to hear an answer for that as well. So what

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do you feel about that? Well, I think the biggest

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thing is just remembering that AI is a tool.

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It is not the source. God is the source. OK,

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he is the creator. This is simply a tool. It's

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a powerful tool. But again, you're gonna hear

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me say a lot about foundation because when you

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go back to your foundation, if your foundation

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is solid and you know who you are, whose you

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are, who you belong to and who your source is,

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then you can use the tools out here that are

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readily available to you. And it doesn't, you

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keep things in the proper perspective. It doesn't

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try to overpower, you know, the foundation that

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you already have established in your relationship

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with Christ, right? So I'm big on foundation

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because when that's in place, then you can build

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on that with the different tools that's out here,

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including AI, and keep things in the proper perspective.

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Back to you, Michelle. Let me ask this question

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that kind of lines up with that. What do we need

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to be careful about when bringing AI into...

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I know you said therapeutic relationships and

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things of that nature, particularly when we're

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dealing with vulnerable clients, but in the sake

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of bringing into your whole field of the therapeutic

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world, how... What are the things that we need

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to be careful about? I know you spoke on, you

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know, the human part of it. But what are other

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things that we need to look out for, you know,

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and be careful about when using AI? Reliance.

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Relying on it to solve the problems, to help

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you through the emotional or the human issues.

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It's easy to lean into it because it's easier,

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right? This person really doesn't have to pay

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attention. AI doesn't have to pay attention to

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your cues, your tears, or anything like that.

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You can just shoot straight questions or information.

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So AI is a toolbox. It helps us process information.

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But for real -life experiences, we have to pay

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attention to the human touch. It's essential

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for us to be with each other. not just therapeutic

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relationships, but human relationships. AI is

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easy, if that makes sense. It's easy, where emotions

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and feelings and belief and even our spirituality

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becomes more complicated because we are human.

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Not necessarily complicated, but more complex

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because we are human. So being mindful to not

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rely on AI to fix or to heal in places that it's

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not possible. That's good. And also, I'm asking

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one more question. This is kind of my question.

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You know, some really shoot straight for direct

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answers. And I'm just kind of wondering with

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being a therapist in that matter, you know, what

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are things that people what are what are what's

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like an example of something? somebody would

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probably have on a common basis when it comes

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to AI, or not even the case of AI, when it comes

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to the case of saying there's a problem and they

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want to, there's this therapist that wants to

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feed into an AI system. What are things that

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they are probably going to be addressed by? What's

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one of the major examples? All right, an example

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we can take is relationship therapy, right? Everybody's

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either trying to date, divorce, marry, not marry,

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be alone, single, you know, in every different

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stage of life. It's about human connection. We

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want to have a relationship, right? As a therapist

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or a clinician, we are bound by ethical boundaries,

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right? Ethical issues, that type of thing. There's

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a lot of reporting that we are mandated to do,

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right? So if... you take a relationship or a

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person who, what's the trendy word, or has been

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around for years is a narcissist, right? Right?

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I think I'm dating a narcissist. What should

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I do about that? Well, usually a person who's

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a narcissist doesn't know that they're a narcissist,

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right? You can tell them all day, they're going

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to deny it, right? But you have us people putting

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in how to Date a narcissist or how to break up

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with a narcissist again. It's going to give you

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information But if you are dealing with an abusive

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narcissist Physically, it can give you the resource

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instead you call 9 -1 -1 until you do these things

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But how do you heal from the trauma of that?

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Hey, I can't do that. Mmm Now let me ask this

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question of you minister Rondo. Okay why Is it

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important in this age to have spiritual discernment?

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Well, I would say because spiritual discernment

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is vital because we have to be able to identify

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if it's rooted in God or if it's something coming

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from another source. And that's key with all

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of the information that's out there. like Dr.

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Michelle was just saying, some of that advice

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that we get out there on AI, good information,

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but if it's not rooted in God and if it goes

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against the purpose and the plan that God has

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for your life, then you know you can't receive

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that information. You can't take that information

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and apply it to your life. if it does not fit

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the scope of what God has spoken over your life.

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So that's important. And if you don't have that

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spiritual discernment, you'll be tossed everywhere

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because all the information that's coming at

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you, you got to be able to grab that stuff and

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say, okay, this is not God. This is not God.

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No, that doesn't apply. I can't use that. That

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may work for you, but not for me. And that goes

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back again to that foundation. Yeah, that's that.

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I'm glad you're saying that. I'm going to ask

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you one more question. Why? Why? Why? This is

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right here. What? What would you say to someone

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that feels overwhelmed or unsure of what to think

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of these things? Because you just kind of answered

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him in a sense. But what do you like? Because.

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I've seen some that could really get into AI,

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like I said, and really ask it some things that

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are a little over the top. And having a mindset

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to know when to say when, and to understand that

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there is a part that is still human that is in

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you, that you have to make a good decision of

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yourself. Again, if I put something into AI,

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if I prompted to do something, and it gives me

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something back, I shouldn't just take exactly

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what it gives me. I should at least look into

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it, read it, make sure it makes sense, and understand

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that you do have feelings towards what it's giving

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you. And some may feel like, oh, let's just go

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with that. But the case of it, sometimes people

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can get some things and try to go to two or three

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different situations within three different AI

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systems, and now they're overwhelmed and confused.

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With all of this like you just said there's so

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much information to give That you don't sometimes

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know which one to get or to receive the correct

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way So what do you what do you would you say

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to someone who feels that way? Well, I would

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say if you're if you're using a tool and you're

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becoming overwhelmed with the tool and and and

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it's it's just Overtaking you you need to step

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back for a moment, you know, and if being overwhelmed

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or, you know, operating in fear is something

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that you deal with, then that's when you got

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to go see Dr. Michelle, because now we need to

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get down to the root of the problem, because

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evidently it may not just be AI. It could be

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something that is causing that to be an issue

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that you're feeling so overwhelmed and you don't

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have that balance that you need to be able to

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say, OK, this is too much. I need to step back.

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But I would, I would truly say to someone who's

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overwhelmed that do your homework. You know,

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don't try to overwhelm yourself with two and

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three sources of the information. Get the information,

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choose which, you know, which AI site you're

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going to use. Use it. Do your homework. You know,

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do some research. Find out when I use AI a lot

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for even with my scripture studies. It's a powerful

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tool when I'm trying to get an understanding

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on certain things. But at the end of the day,

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I am going to do my homework. I'm opening up

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all my different tools and resources that I have

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that's tangible in my hand and making sure that

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all of the things are lining up. I'm not just

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taking what it tells me, right? So I would just

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say, do your homework. Don't let it overwhelm

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you. And if you realize that being overwhelmed

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and fear is something that you're dealing with

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on a regular basis, then that's when we need

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to see Dr. Michelle. So she can kind of help

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point out what's happening there. True. And let's

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not just overwhelm, you got people who are dependent,

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codependent on the information that they receive

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from AI. So that becomes a dependency there.

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That's also an issue. Yes. That's good. Do you

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feel that, let me ask that. Now that's another

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question. Do you, uh, for Michelle, do you feel

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that, I'm trying to say this. Do you feel that

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this could be an addiction for someone? Yes.

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Because that's one thing I've been noticing too.

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Like people are really leaning, like, like best

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friend, you know, situation or buddy, or almost

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like considered or almost trying to make it godly.

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Like, like, What is the situation? Is that a

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situation that people are really falling into

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that it could be an addiction? Well, you know,

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it talks to you now. You can really create one.

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You can name it. You can talk to it. You can

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tell it everything. And it's there. It consoles.

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It will. Hmm. I'm not trying to step on your

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toes here, Minister Rhonda. But loneliness is

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a real thing. Yes, and it makes it easy and y

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'all makes it easy It makes it bearable right

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especially if it's talking to you if you're paying

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for that you're talking to it It's talking to

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you the voice Everything you can become very

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dependent on that to where you are isolating

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and withdrawing and not digging into Human relationships

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human contact, right? And just like she was saying

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with spiritual discernment, that you got to have

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intuition, right? Not dependent on intuition,

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right? But learning to trust yourself again,

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that we're going back to the impact of trauma,

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but trusting yourself again. Also knowing the

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word, hearing the word, we've all been taught

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to know the word for yourself. You got to know

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the word for yourself, right? That leans into

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spiritual discernment and faith. When we come

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to therapy, we're going to tell you, to trust

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your intuition. We'll lean into spiritual discernment.

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Every therapist doesn't have that approach. I

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do. So it's just making it all connect for the

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benefit and the healing of the person, not to

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dissuade you from using AI or utilizing it. There

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are some great nuggets to it, but when that codependency

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or that overwhelm Start to intersect or become

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a big part of you not being able to make a decision

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Do you not being able to make a decision whether

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you're overwhelmed or codependent? It's it's

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it can be again. It's a tool It's not a savior.

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It's not a fixer and this is business. That's

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a that's a lot of the a lot of the nuances of

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Like with music that's why I wanted you to answer

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it in that way because a lot of people try to

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take the music, this music stance and go all

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in with AI and never check it and fine tune it

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in any way. And it gives the most craziest results

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sometimes if you don't pay attention. And some

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would just go, like I say, just, I mean, even

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if it is, whether it's a drawing, whether it's

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a picture, whether you're posting a blog, whether

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you're writing a book, sometimes it just, they

00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.750
go all in. Just, this is what I want. And if

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they spit that out, and then they'll literally

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take that and just go give it to people and not

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even proof it, not even look at it, just to even

00:24:32.230 --> 00:24:35.029
try to just fine tune it in any way to make it

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feel more self versus just driven AI. But for

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the sake of that, let me ask one more question

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to Michelle. If AI is going to become part of

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mental health care and What should you never

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hand over to AI? AI is a part of mental wellness,

00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:10.140
mental health care already. And you know, AI

00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:12.759
has been around forever. It's just become to

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the forefront lately. But we don't use it to

00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.200
make decisions. Does that make sense? It doesn't,

00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:31.059
we don't use it to let a client know how Many

00:25:31.059 --> 00:25:33.779
times they should come to session, right? We

00:25:33.779 --> 00:25:37.380
don't tell them when they should come to sessions

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and how long it should be, depending on what

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type of program they're in. So it's not, don't,

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I don't think clinicians should rely on AI to

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be a therapist. There's still work in human connection,

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human contact, psycho education, all those things.

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It cannot. I just cannot do that. And if that

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and if that be the case, so like even if you

00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:11.099
just say it like just so somebody else could

00:26:11.099 --> 00:26:14.170
hear this one more time, you just you just basically

00:26:14.170 --> 00:26:17.609
say it in a sense of it's not it's not a doctor

00:26:17.769 --> 00:26:22.789
is it doesn't have a Ph. D. Does have any degrees

00:26:22.789 --> 00:26:25.509
in any sense. People who built it may have had

00:26:25.509 --> 00:26:30.500
these things, but it does not. I does not. present

00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:36.460
this. So making that be the reality, the human

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factor has came back up again. So human factor

00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:43.319
is still going to be the biggest piece of this

00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.880
puzzle, correct? It is the biggest piece of the

00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.259
puzzle. OK. And it's the same thing for you,

00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.779
too. Minister Rhonda, like a lot of like you

00:26:52.779 --> 00:26:54.799
basically been saying the whole entire time,

00:26:54.859 --> 00:26:58.769
you know, God is still the big factor here. And

00:26:58.769 --> 00:27:02.069
some will literally Sweep that part under the

00:27:02.069 --> 00:27:04.950
rug and not go there first because that is the

00:27:04.950 --> 00:27:07.369
main source I would still say go for the main

00:27:07.369 --> 00:27:10.670
source in God first then maybe ask a few questions

00:27:10.670 --> 00:27:13.470
of AI But I wouldn't say lean on the case of

00:27:13.470 --> 00:27:17.049
AI. So like you say having a strong background

00:27:17.049 --> 00:27:20.869
Human and spiritual at the same time plays a

00:27:20.869 --> 00:27:25.569
big factor with AI. Am I right? Yes, that's I

00:27:25.569 --> 00:27:28.609
agree wholeheartedly because just being able

00:27:28.609 --> 00:27:33.609
to cipher through truth and error. Because AI,

00:27:34.029 --> 00:27:38.349
it can be error, you know? So just being able

00:27:38.349 --> 00:27:42.230
to balance it with the truth, with the Word of

00:27:42.230 --> 00:27:47.599
God. That's the truth that we stand on. I can.

00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:53.119
Howdy, howdy, howdy. Hey, nephew. Hey, nephew.

00:27:53.420 --> 00:27:56.000
This is some good talk you got going on here.

00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:01.160
How's everything today? Oh, come on in the conversation.

00:28:01.339 --> 00:28:06.559
Come on in. How is it being in this position?

00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:11.279
Again, we talk about AI all the time. And these

00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.460
two have a very different, how I'm trying to

00:28:15.460 --> 00:28:19.660
say this. These two have a very different outlook

00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:24.750
than most aren't used to hearing about AI. What

00:28:24.750 --> 00:28:27.650
was your sole reasoning for bringing these two?

00:28:27.789 --> 00:28:30.730
Because I see, I know, but I want you to explain

00:28:30.730 --> 00:28:34.269
it now. Why was your reasoning for it? I mean,

00:28:34.309 --> 00:28:36.369
even the whole situation of the T, everything

00:28:36.369 --> 00:28:38.390
coming up, like what was your decision and what

00:28:38.390 --> 00:28:41.730
was your angle with this? You know, these are

00:28:41.730 --> 00:28:46.210
two of the major, I would say top five things

00:28:46.210 --> 00:28:49.950
that come up when anyone is dealing with AI and

00:28:49.950 --> 00:28:53.769
when you deal with fear of AI. And so many people

00:28:53.769 --> 00:28:59.490
are afraid. And one thing that per the statistics,

00:28:59.650 --> 00:29:02.750
this is not Kansas saying this, but per the statistics,

00:29:03.509 --> 00:29:10.230
those who are believers in Christ, many of them

00:29:10.230 --> 00:29:14.230
are hesitant. to use AI and they believe it is

00:29:14.230 --> 00:29:18.089
not of God. And I'll tell you just to say people

00:29:18.089 --> 00:29:19.849
that have been way on the other side, people

00:29:19.849 --> 00:29:22.390
have said that it's an alien, right? I'm just

00:29:22.390 --> 00:29:24.509
putting it out there so people know we're not

00:29:24.509 --> 00:29:27.210
resistant, we're not hearing you, we're not listening

00:29:27.210 --> 00:29:30.329
to what you're saying, but what you're saying

00:29:30.329 --> 00:29:33.410
is not factual. And so I wanted to bring some

00:29:33.410 --> 00:29:36.069
experts on to really bring some facts forward

00:29:36.069 --> 00:29:38.630
because everyone knows my reason for doing this

00:29:38.630 --> 00:29:41.539
is that I don't want anyone left behind. And

00:29:41.539 --> 00:29:43.980
whatever excuses or things that are challenging

00:29:43.980 --> 00:29:47.480
you from digging into AI, I want to help address

00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:51.519
them because I want everyone to take advantage

00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:54.039
of the opportunity to continue to live their

00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:58.119
best life in this new AI era. And because I see

00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:00.019
it, like, you know, my job in human resources,

00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:01.519
you know, that's what I do. I've been doing it

00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:05.000
for 30 years. You know, I see the impact of AI

00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:09.160
on corporate America. I would say 30 to 40 %

00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:12.680
of people are losing their jobs. And it is because

00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.980
they're not coming up in their understanding

00:30:15.980 --> 00:30:18.779
and in their learning of AI so that they can

00:30:18.779 --> 00:30:22.400
provide that percent of administrative tasks

00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:24.880
that they do today to do it through AI so they

00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.950
can become 60 % more proficient. So, you know,

00:30:28.950 --> 00:30:30.589
that's, and that's the business decision. It

00:30:30.589 --> 00:30:33.930
makes sense, right? But can I be part of that

00:30:33.930 --> 00:30:37.529
40%, that 20 % in some situations, right? That

00:30:37.529 --> 00:30:40.130
they're retaining because the AI will take over

00:30:40.130 --> 00:30:43.650
doing a big percentage of the administrative

00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:47.069
portions of the job market. So that's why, you

00:30:47.069 --> 00:30:48.930
know, so that's why I wanted to bring them on,

00:30:49.009 --> 00:30:52.549
nephew. It was all about, you know, trying to

00:30:52.549 --> 00:30:55.589
put out the fires on the myths that are continuing

00:30:55.589 --> 00:30:58.150
to keep people, you know, and making them hesitant

00:30:58.150 --> 00:31:02.390
to dig in and understand AI. And that was one

00:31:02.390 --> 00:31:07.130
of the biggest things, too. I've always felt

00:31:07.130 --> 00:31:13.329
like, OK, the church, when we do the church situations

00:31:13.329 --> 00:31:17.950
and scenes, it's like you try to figure how they

00:31:17.950 --> 00:31:23.130
look at what we do and how we use AI. And considerably,

00:31:23.829 --> 00:31:27.930
none of us really All of us have our own way,

00:31:27.990 --> 00:31:31.829
but all of us do fall back into the fact of we

00:31:31.829 --> 00:31:36.450
are human. And some forget that part. And that's

00:31:36.450 --> 00:31:39.730
why I'm glad you brought these two to the table,

00:31:40.309 --> 00:31:44.930
because the questions were squared perfectly.

00:31:45.390 --> 00:31:47.410
Because a lot of people forget the part like,

00:31:47.549 --> 00:31:50.210
look, we still serve a guy. We still have a guy.

00:31:50.930 --> 00:31:54.509
Absolutely. And there are things with that mentally,

00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.559
that we will deal with that will come to the

00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:02.319
table. Sometimes, I mean, we may use AI, but

00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.980
how should we use it and how can we affect that?

00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:10.589
Right, right. The tea experience. Please explain

00:32:10.589 --> 00:32:13.450
what we have coming up with the tea experience.

00:32:13.690 --> 00:32:16.609
I know I would, if you want me to do it or I

00:32:16.609 --> 00:32:23.190
want you to explain. The tea experience. This

00:32:23.190 --> 00:32:26.369
is something that we want you all to come out

00:32:26.369 --> 00:32:29.589
in experience with us. It will be held Saturday,

00:32:29.710 --> 00:32:34.559
October 3rd. That's this year at 9 a .m. to 12

00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.410
p .m. at the Pauline tea bar. Twenty three, twenty

00:32:38.410 --> 00:32:42.210
six. I think that's what's the Artie Avenue in

00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:45.849
Charlotte. OK, the Avenue in Charlotte, 28208.

00:32:46.329 --> 00:32:50.730
You can get tickets at Eventbrite .com or you

00:32:50.730 --> 00:32:54.740
get to Eventbrite. Just do a search for the T

00:32:54.740 --> 00:32:57.519
experience. It should come up. It should come

00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.619
up immediately just off of that experience. I'm

00:33:00.619 --> 00:33:02.059
going to have the flyer right here so you can

00:33:02.059 --> 00:33:04.920
see the details right now. So catch all of the

00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.250
details. And if you need any help, contact us

00:33:08.250 --> 00:33:14.250
at 704 -975 -6173. Again, the number is 704 -975

00:33:14.250 --> 00:33:23.680
-6173. Email strategy at AIC, well, just aicareerpivot

00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:29.740
.com. Again, strategy at aicareerpivot .com.

00:33:29.819 --> 00:33:36.250
And the website is aicareerpivot .com. Again,

00:33:36.250 --> 00:33:39.950
right now in front of us, I want you to see this.

00:33:40.089 --> 00:33:41.369
Go ahead and take the time to get it. If you

00:33:41.369 --> 00:33:43.210
want a screenshot, I'll get a screenshot of it.

00:33:43.250 --> 00:33:46.650
Keep the info. Go over. We want you all to come

00:33:46.650 --> 00:33:50.210
out and experience Michelle Tillman and Minister

00:33:50.210 --> 00:33:53.509
Rhonda Wilson. This will be a big deal. I mean,

00:33:53.730 --> 00:33:56.509
I'm being honest. If you're in the Charlotte

00:33:56.509 --> 00:34:00.640
area surrounding, please come. and join us with

00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.019
this. This is something that you will be able

00:34:02.019 --> 00:34:03.920
to take with you for the rest of your life, not

00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.819
just the short term. I'm excited. Excellent.

00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:11.280
One more question I can. One more question. One

00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:17.719
more question. Okay. With the career group and

00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.980
things the way that it is going, a lot of the

00:34:21.980 --> 00:34:26.579
AI situations have been basically talking about

00:34:26.579 --> 00:34:28.800
it throughout this podcast, changing. Rules are

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:32.940
changing, things are changing. And the aspects

00:34:32.940 --> 00:34:37.199
of what the career pivot group was going to bring,

00:34:38.340 --> 00:34:41.820
are we constantly going to receive these changes?

00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:43.719
Are we going to constantly receive these updates

00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.860
and things that are going to be changing along

00:34:45.860 --> 00:34:51.010
the years? Absolutely. We can expect. I mean,

00:34:51.150 --> 00:34:53.789
it's going to be, when you think about two years

00:34:53.789 --> 00:34:56.889
from now, where we will be, right, the impact

00:34:56.889 --> 00:35:01.969
of AI. right on the world, it will not be the

00:35:01.969 --> 00:35:05.849
same. And I would say some of the biggest things

00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:10.949
that I want to talk about at the T. I want people

00:35:10.949 --> 00:35:13.610
to bring with them, you know, what are your career

00:35:13.610 --> 00:35:16.889
challenges? What is keeping you up at night?

00:35:17.010 --> 00:35:19.449
Is it your business that's not going well? Because

00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:23.309
we're going to have the entire team of the AI

00:35:23.309 --> 00:35:25.769
Career Pivot Group, they will all be there and

00:35:25.769 --> 00:35:28.230
they will be walking the room and we want to

00:35:28.230 --> 00:35:31.380
help make sure that we are preparing. everyone

00:35:31.380 --> 00:35:35.139
that we can to be prepared for the future. And,

00:35:35.139 --> 00:35:37.059
you know, people know I've been in HR, I say

00:35:37.059 --> 00:35:39.239
it a lot, over 30 years, and I can help you with

00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.320
your career, I can talk to you about where I

00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.219
see your challenges are, what you need to work

00:35:44.219 --> 00:35:47.380
on, what is up with your resume, and why are

00:35:47.380 --> 00:35:49.679
you doing this particular job when I see all

00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.820
these other skills that you have? How do you

00:35:52.820 --> 00:35:56.559
take that and morph that into what are the jobs

00:35:56.559 --> 00:36:01.090
going to look like once AI has impacted the world

00:36:01.090 --> 00:36:03.710
as it's going to impact it over the next two

00:36:03.710 --> 00:36:06.650
years. And we will be able to help equip you.

00:36:06.829 --> 00:36:09.829
So that's why I'm like, don't miss this opportunity.

00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:13.090
It's more than coming to sit and listen. This

00:36:13.090 --> 00:36:15.510
is where you can come and train, get help, get

00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:18.369
prepared, get the support you need, come up with

00:36:18.369 --> 00:36:22.389
your own AI journey of what you need to do, right?

00:36:22.389 --> 00:36:25.190
To be prepared for yourself, your family. You

00:36:25.190 --> 00:36:27.409
got the experts in the building. If you feel

00:36:27.409 --> 00:36:29.650
like you're falling apart, you got Dr. Michelle

00:36:29.650 --> 00:36:31.929
here, that she's here to help you think about

00:36:31.929 --> 00:36:33.829
it and stop saying you're falling apart, like

00:36:33.829 --> 00:36:36.050
she had to say to me a lot when I first met her.

00:36:36.110 --> 00:36:39.170
And then we have minister Rhonda who can pray

00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:41.289
you up out of the deepest hole that you think

00:36:41.289 --> 00:36:44.309
you're in. So you got power in the building to

00:36:44.309 --> 00:36:48.449
equip you to get your life together. And the

00:36:48.449 --> 00:36:51.309
anointing is there. And I will profess to you

00:36:51.309 --> 00:36:54.090
that we're in a season of favor and the favor

00:36:54.090 --> 00:36:58.150
of God is there. Don't miss it. I'm just saying

00:36:58.150 --> 00:37:00.889
don't miss it. I mean, even my pastor is preaching

00:37:00.889 --> 00:37:04.590
about favor and going into new seasons, but guess

00:37:04.590 --> 00:37:08.130
what? The people of God pick up AI, pick up skills,

00:37:08.269 --> 00:37:10.750
pick up what you need to do to take advantage

00:37:10.750 --> 00:37:12.949
of it because there are things that we need to

00:37:12.949 --> 00:37:15.710
do. God's not just going to say, here is a job

00:37:15.710 --> 00:37:17.590
and it's following your lap. You got to get out

00:37:17.590 --> 00:37:20.550
there and do the work, right? To get it. So that's

00:37:20.550 --> 00:37:22.590
why we're giving you the skills to walk in the

00:37:22.590 --> 00:37:25.889
favor that God is releasing on his people and

00:37:25.889 --> 00:37:28.010
releasing on the world and those who, you know,

00:37:28.010 --> 00:37:29.849
if you don't believe, guess what? We can even

00:37:29.849 --> 00:37:31.989
pray with you through whatever your situation

00:37:31.989 --> 00:37:34.349
is and we will help lead you to God. whatever

00:37:34.349 --> 00:37:36.670
it is, it's going to be in the building. Don't

00:37:36.670 --> 00:37:39.630
miss it. Don't miss it. Don't miss it. All right.

00:37:39.750 --> 00:37:42.510
Closing this out. So with all of the information

00:37:42.510 --> 00:37:46.449
that we've given today, these are just a small,

00:37:47.150 --> 00:37:49.510
just a small window of what will be going on

00:37:49.510 --> 00:37:52.960
at the tea. Don't miss it. It's something that's

00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.980
very big again, that I actually like the angle

00:37:55.980 --> 00:38:00.340
of this very much. I will be shooting a podcast

00:38:00.340 --> 00:38:05.909
live. for the situation. I want to capture this

00:38:05.909 --> 00:38:10.289
for a real reason. You have two very good, two

00:38:10.289 --> 00:38:13.150
very good individuals who will be there, but

00:38:13.150 --> 00:38:16.510
yes, the whole group will be there. But for the

00:38:16.510 --> 00:38:20.969
most part, I want everybody to hear what these

00:38:20.969 --> 00:38:23.110
two ladies have to say. This is something that's

00:38:23.110 --> 00:38:26.429
very important that I've been wanting. I can't

00:38:26.429 --> 00:38:28.650
explain it all the time because of my musical.

00:38:28.929 --> 00:38:31.670
background, it just leads me a different way

00:38:31.670 --> 00:38:35.869
with AI. But the parts that are human, the human

00:38:35.869 --> 00:38:40.710
values that we forget about, God and our own

00:38:40.710 --> 00:38:43.550
mental health, these are two very big things,

00:38:43.929 --> 00:38:47.989
two big things that go hand in hand. And to hear

00:38:47.989 --> 00:38:51.070
people explain the differences and understanding

00:38:51.070 --> 00:38:56.079
how to navigate through it with AI. how to, what

00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.179
to pay attention to, things that you should do,

00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.119
things that you shouldn't do. These are things

00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.420
that this is all about teaching. So I will be

00:39:03.420 --> 00:39:06.000
set up and I will be recording all of this live.

00:39:06.900 --> 00:39:10.059
So if you do miss it, you miss it, but I don't

00:39:10.059 --> 00:39:13.380
want you to miss it. So I will bring it to you

00:39:13.380 --> 00:39:16.679
in the future though. But again, this is something

00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:20.340
that we want to elevate you and make sure that

00:39:20.340 --> 00:39:22.860
you all continue to keep growing because AI is

00:39:22.860 --> 00:39:28.840
slowly changing the world. Definitely is. With

00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.440
that being it, I appreciate you Minister Rhonda

00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:34.780
Wilson and I appreciate you Michelle Tillman

00:39:34.780 --> 00:39:37.920
for coming by. Thank you. Any last words I can

00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:41.440
before we close this out? I think this has been

00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:45.900
amazing. Another amazing podcast by the amazing

00:39:45.900 --> 00:39:50.219
Duann Barino, who is known for his amazing knowledge

00:39:50.219 --> 00:39:53.460
around music. But I do just want to say that,

00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:55.719
you know, this is our first time doing this and

00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:58.940
it's not the last. We plan to do this every quarter.

00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.579
So I just don't want anyone to miss out on this

00:40:02.579 --> 00:40:05.380
topic because we'll have other topics as we move

00:40:05.380 --> 00:40:07.699
forward because this may be phase one, then they

00:40:07.699 --> 00:40:10.360
have phase two or even a series, right? Chapter

00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.480
one, chapter two. But I don't want anyone to

00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.880
miss this one session where we will have a topic

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:20.739
that we will not be repeating. And the last thing

00:40:20.739 --> 00:40:23.539
I want to say, go and buy your tickets. We are

00:40:23.539 --> 00:40:26.340
starting to see a spike in ticket sales. and

00:40:26.340 --> 00:40:29.159
we have a limited amount of seats. So we want

00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.519
people to jump in there and get your seat. Just

00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:34.739
go out to Eventbrite and Duann's gonna put the

00:40:34.739 --> 00:40:38.699
information up for you. But don't miss it. Okay,

00:40:38.860 --> 00:40:40.679
excellent. Don't miss it, don't miss it. I can't

00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:42.940
wait to see everybody there. Can't wait to see

00:40:42.940 --> 00:40:45.980
you. All right, Not Just Music Podcast family,

00:40:46.179 --> 00:40:48.980
we appreciate y 'all. AI Career Pivot Group,

00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.650
we appreciate you as well. Always remember to

00:40:53.650 --> 00:40:57.519
keep God first. Shout out to the autism community.

00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.480
I love y 'all so much. Continue to keep me driven

00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:05.000
like you do. And also, lastly, I'm going to put

00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.400
a link at the bottom of this one more time for

00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:11.760
the website of AI Career Pivot Group. Make sure

00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.519
you go there as well. And we have a lot going

00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.739
on there right now. So you want to make sure

00:41:16.739 --> 00:41:19.159
that you tap in on a lot of this stuff. We don't

00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.150
want you to miss anything. All right. All right,

00:41:22.210 --> 00:41:24.449
people. We appreciate y 'all for coming by again.

00:41:24.710 --> 00:41:27.409
It's your boy, Dwarren Barrino. Peace and love.

00:41:27.530 --> 00:41:28.769
Take it easy till next time.