June 24, 2026
AI Prompting & Music Comp

In today’s episode, we bridge the gap between text and melody! Join us for a fascinating conversation as we explore two of the most transformative frontiers in technology: AI Prompting and AI Music Composition.
We are thrilled to welcome special guests Courtney Daniel and Candace Lee to the show.
What to Expect:
- Mastering AI Prompting: We sit down with Courtney Daniel to demystify the art of prompting. Learn how to craft better inputs, get more accurate results, and unlock the true potential of AI tools in your daily workflow.
- The Future of Sound: The tables turn as guest Candace Lee steps into the interviewer seat, putting host Duan to the test. They dive deep into the world of AI music composition, discussing how algorithms are shaping the creative process and what the future holds for human-AI collaboration in music.
Whether you are a tech enthusiast, a creative professional, or just curious about how AI is reshaping our world, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss.
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Connect with our guests:
- Courtney Daniel: https://www.aicareerpivot.com/
- Candace Lee: https://www.aicareerpivot.com/
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All right, what's going on everybody? Not just
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music podcast, back again. It's your boy Dwarne
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Barrino by himself this time, but I do have some
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very special guests in the house. We've already
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had one special guest already. We're bringing
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her back to show the energy and also give us
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some more insight. I have my aunt Candice Lee
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in the building. Aunt Cand, what is going on
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again? Oh, nephew, nephew, you know it's always
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amazing to be on with you. I tell you, I feel
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like not only do I get to talk about what I have
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going on, but I get to hear more about what you
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have going on with this Not Just Music podcast.
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It is amazing. You have a great organization
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and we are honored to be here with you again
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today. And we have a new person with me today.
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And I cannot wait to hear from Courtney Daniel,
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our prompt engineer. for the AI career pivot
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group. So everybody listen in really closely
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because you're definitely going to learn something
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tonight and get excited about your AI journey.
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Definitely, definitely. So Courtney, I want you
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to introduce yourself to the people. I'm not
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going to do, I know the story. I'm not going
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to run into it. I want you to tell the story,
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but first let the people know who you are and
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what you have going on and what position you
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carry. in the AI pivot group, please. Absolutely.
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Thank you. I am so, listen, so excited to be
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here. So, okay. So bear with, here we go. A little
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bit about me. My name is Courtney. I am so thrilled
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to be a part of the AICPG team. My focus is in
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prompt engineering. And so I'm definitely going
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to get into that a little bit, what that is and
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the ins and outs of that. But I just wanted to
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share a little bit of my story. It's so funny
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because I, it wasn't until I joined this team
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that I realized that my testimony is that of
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whom we are looking to serve. So it really holds
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a special place in my heart. My background is
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in social services, all things family and community
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engagement. I work with parents to help them.
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understand the importance of having continuity,
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being present in their school, their child's
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educational world, and bringing that into the
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home so that that association that their child
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learns about becomes familiar. It becomes something
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that they recognize both in the classroom and
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at home. It sort of smoothens out, it smooths
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out, excuse me, the ability to internalize some
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of the competencies that come along with their
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development as they go in. So that's a little
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bit of where I came from. And as it stands, I
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am here today to talk about my pivot into a pretty
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unsuspecting realm of entrepreneurship. OK. OK.
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So the question that I have been asking of everybody,
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there is a very big piece that you pointed out.
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that I know a lot of people probably play against
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when it comes to the word or the term, the breakdown,
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AI. There's a lot of fears that are behind AI,
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but there's some things that you pointed out
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which make it very understandable for me, and
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that part is the part that is the human nature
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of it. The parts that you take, the parts of
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you, the parts of a family, the parts of individuals,
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and make it yours. So with the situation of what
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you just brought and what you introduced and
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the human nature part of it, meaning like, what's
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the feel behind it that can people can make it
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like, okay, how can my personal life be, you
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know, implemented into this through your field?
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Listen, that is my favorite. This part right
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here is my favorite. So with prompting. When
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you basically prompting is giving telling the
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AI tool what you wanted to do so that you can
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get from it what you're looking to learn or your
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goal setting opportunities. Right. And so when
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I when you asked me that question and I'm thinking
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about the human part of it and how to how to
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help others. not be afraid and to sort of lean
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into all of the possibilities that come from
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it. I would say for me personally, I have a heart
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for people. So my approach and how I began learning
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and growing with my AI tools is I just had conversations
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with it. I took every opportunity to let it learn
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about me and my vibe and the things that I like
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and prefer and all of those things so that when
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I get ready to do some real work with it, it
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has that running in the background. And I would
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encourage anyone who has reservations about it
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to just take some time and get to know it, have
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some fun with it, ask questions, let it get to
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know you, let it give you a summary of who it
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thinks you are. And you would be amazed at what
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it is able to, what it's able to gather and capture
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the essence of the human. And then, of course,
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we'll talk a little later about the importance
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of making sure that the human stays within the
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whole process of usage, but yeah. Now, the part
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of, see, I think some might confuse that part,
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where you say, and it's not saying I'm confused,
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but I want this part to be very much there. You
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said that, in a sense, you're teaching your AI.
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You're teaching it to do things and to react
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to you a certain way. Now would you consider
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this in a sense that to me, like you said, prompting
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is probably the most important part that I think
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gets people a little drawn away from it because
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they don't know exactly like how to approach
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it. So in a sense, so just one more small detail
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in understanding like, Give me one more small
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details like how you said you talk to it consistently.
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What's another reason behind why you give it
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that type of energy? Because you wanted to fine
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tune you very strategically, right? Yes. Absolutely.
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Thank you for asking that clarifying question.
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think of it as two types of, two dynamics when
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you're thinking about the entirety of prompting
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and what that stands for. In short, just to be
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clear on what it's not, prompting is not anything
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where you need code, you don't need any technical
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formal training for, the part that you are, the
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first part of it is just the getting to know
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you. So you may ask, you may give it information,
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give it a rundown of, I am this age, I was like
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this as a child, I'm like this as an adult, I
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have these quirks about me, I prefer this, I
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don't like peanut butter and jelly, although
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I love peanut butter and jelly, but you give
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it all of the things that you enjoy and some
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things that you may not prefer. Give it an opportunity
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to ask questions to ask clarifying questions
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and get to know you more because the second dynamic
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is the discipline of it so once you had an opportunity
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to spend some time you are getting to know. you're
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getting to know how it is gonna respond to you
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and you're giving it information. There's a relationship
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building there, but now you're teetering into,
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let's say you have some goals that you'd like
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to work on and you're at a career pivot and now
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it has this background information. It's had
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the opportunity to learn all of your highs and
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lows, the things that make your heart skip a
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beat. And so when you tell it, I'm looking to,
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do some traveling. I'm looking to become a travel
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agent. Now it is able to use the heart of it
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all that you gave it in the relationship building
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part. And it will be able to supplement the specific
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context that you give it. When you give it its
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prompt, when you tell it what you're looking
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to do and what you'd like to get from it, it
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is able to sub sub concurrently use that information
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that you've already given it about who you are
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and apply it specifically to your goals so that
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it's tailored a bit more. OK, see now, let me
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implement my piece here because I wanted to say
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it is rare I get to hear it spoke as discipline.
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See, these are the parts where I think some people.
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confuse it in a sense of, or in a sense, abuse
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it. They think that it's supposed to do something
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that it's not. And considerably, there's a direction
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that it will go for you. It's all about what
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you're giving, as she said, the info that you're
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giving it. is only going to respond as much as
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info as you're giving it. In a sense of the nature
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of it is a personal thing that you can tie into
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it. It's not saying that you got to give it your
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whole life story, but you have to give it an
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idea of how you think. Now, I want to ask Aunt
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Ken a question. So, Aunt Ken, how did you implement
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Courtney into the group? Her piece is very, very
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needed in a sense, because I don't think a lot
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of people would think to use AI in her field.
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What was the direction? What did you point? What
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was it for you? Now, I'm going to tell you. So
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one thing about your auntie, I call it, and I
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say this to Uncle Scott a lot, right? My husband,
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I say. I can tell when people have the magic.
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And I have to say the other party is I sought
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God to say who are the right people for the vision
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for this. business and it's also ministry to
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me. But the thing about Courtney, she had a natural
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capability around understanding technical things.
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So it's a little bit step above because anyone
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can do it, right? You don't have to be technical
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to do it. But Courtney had an edge above that
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in the. technical capabilities just like you
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do nephew that's why I say my nephew has the
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magic he used to be a consultant on the team
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because he can go I mean to the top right so
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the same with Courtney you know when I spent
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time with her we were we we've been connected
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for many years probably a decade or more right
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Courtney we were already connected And then as
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I was praying about getting started back up,
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God said, reach out to Courtney, because I remembered
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that she had helped me build a website in the
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past, that she had helped with some other technical
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things. And I said, this is probably right up
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her alley. And so I connected with her and a
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couple others, other of the consultants that
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everyone can meet on Saturday. But I will tell
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you what The reason and how I brought her on
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is I talked to her about AI. And I said, are
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you using it today? God is calling me to launch
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a business. Here is what God is saying. And here
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is what people are saying in the industry of
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what's going to happen over the next two years.
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And I need some people who are open, who have
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the natural capability and passion, and who I
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felt like I could trust, right? Let's be real.
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Someone I could trust. Whenever I connected with
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her nephew, she was already using AI. She was
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already talking to it like I call it her boyfriend,
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because she was whispering to it. I was on the
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phone with her. She said, well, I just wanted
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to ask you, can you go in? And I said, what is
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going on here? Wait just a minute. Am I interrupting
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a conversation that's going on here? I thought
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we were talking. What is this? And I said. Okay,
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you are very way advanced connected to using
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chat. So you are definitely probably someone
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that can go all the way to the top and to the
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next level because you already understand the
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basics. So, and you understand prompting. If
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you're sitting there talking to this person,
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to it, I should say it, people start to think
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of it as a he or she. But it's an app, right?
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She started talking to her app and I thought,
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oh my gosh, yes, she's the one. as we connected
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and talked through it, it was perfect for her
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because she was already prompting and she was
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already on her journey on her prompt engineering
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certification. She was working through that and
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so she just continued that path and completed
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her certifications, spent a lot of time using
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it with others, with her business. So she was
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just the perfect person to bring on to take the
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role of prompt engineering because this can't
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be successful unless we can teach people. how
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to prompt will, because that is the key to success
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in working with AI. And she's so articulate and
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exact, and she will cut you off if you're wrong,
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just to make sure to get you right, because she'll...
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I'm just going to put it out there, because she'll
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do it for me. And she'll go, Pastor C, wait a
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minute, can I just... And I thought, uh -oh,
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she found something that we need to correct.
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It's okay, Courtney, come on, bring it. But she's
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the right one to be in that role, and she brings...
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and she comes with the... a lot of other great
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capabilities that are very valuable to the business.
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Thank you. OK. So let me ask some questions here.
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Let me ask a question. How does that part of
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the creation from just time, what made you say,
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let's try AI? You know, let's what was that?
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What was your I give you from for me? I give
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you my example since Since auntie got to ask
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me some questions. I'm gonna give you my situation.
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So as a as a creator digital and as a parent
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I'm a father and husband father of twin girls
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with autism. Okay So with them having disabilities,
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I wanted more possibilities to how I could be
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a better creator father at the same time, right?
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But I never had like, you could ask people, but
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you get options and opinions sometimes. And nothing
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that you really can like, build off of, in a
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sense. So for me, I just wanted to just be, like
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I said, it was something that was just on my
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mind one day. I didn't even, I've never tried
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anything AI yet. This was like just one of those
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days. I just want to type something in. So I
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typed in a very short situation, something to
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the nature of, I'm a father of twin girls with
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autism and a podcaster. What can I do? Yep. And
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the list that came up was beyond any of my beliefs
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to thinking like, I'm like, whoa. That's how
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it happens. OK. And then in a sense, I didn't
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know that you really like how you say it. You
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can literally talk to it. So I started to understand
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like, OK, you can literally just pick up your
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phone and hold a button down and just start talking
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to it. And it literally gives you. Gold I mean
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so adding the situation of podcasting like people
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wanted to know like how did you become a better
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podcaster? Honestly, it was just by just simply
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adding AI To the to the puzzle or even if we
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wanted to take it from there I had the situation
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of music too. I've always been in music all my
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life Musician most of my life. Yeah, so for the
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case of there's a situation of implementing realistic
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situation or something, and you have this situation
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of AI, some people were like, okay, what does
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AI and, you know, a music producer, they should
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never be in the same room together. But honestly,
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it was actually gold behind it as well. Only
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when you implement it, like you said, the correct
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way and not give it something that's confusing.
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and something that would throw it off and it
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would just give you something that's crazy. Like
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you can't just like give me a hit record. You
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can't say give me a hit record or you can't say
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just give me the perfect podcast. It's not gonna
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give you anything like that. But like you said,
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you talking to it, giving it ideas and little
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things to go about the day or something like
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that. It really, it really implements itself
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to you. So to the point now where when I get
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on and I'm putting together podcasting or anything
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to the nature of writing up the details to it,
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I can just give it a few prompts literally and
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get solid stuff, even to the point where I can
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like I can kind of skim through things now and
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fine tune it to the point where like it really
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knows what's going on, knowing that knowing about
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the podcast, knowing about who the people are
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on the podcast within the podcast. I think my
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screen just went out for a second to come back
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up. OK, but yeah, the situation of just knowing.
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how to implement those things were very important.
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But I think a lot of people are scared of that
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part. So I'm glad you can, and that's why I asked
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Auntie about Courtney. I was like, I'm looking
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at all your details and the things that you implemented
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into and using it a proper way. You rarely get
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people who know it the way that you do. So that's
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my way. What was your way? of your entry level.
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Cause I think a lot of people don't have an entry
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level. They just kind of just like try to go
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from hearing people like us that's advanced in
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it. What was your entry point? What was your,
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you know, your level of entry? Because a lot
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of people are scared of that part. As I said,
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they're trying to go from an advanced part or
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somebody that's advanced in it. What was your
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entry level? So I am inherently someone just
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coming from social services. I am built to do
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research. I'm built to resolve and solve problems
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and be a referral and be a support. So I'm always
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trying to find a way to gain information. So
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something that I did that made me feel comfortable
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getting started was just learning about what
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it was, like picking one tool. And at the time
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it was ChatGPT. That was the first one I'd gotten
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into. I worked with a couple of different ones
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because I've since learned that they all do different
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things. So you got to get comfy with what your
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preferences are. When I started with ChatGPT,
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I first did a little bit of research on what
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other people experience, things of that nature.
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And then, like I mentioned earlier, I literally
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downloaded it and just started talking to it.
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I just gave it, I saw in one of the videos I'd
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seen to just give it a few details about yourself.
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So I did give it my social work background and
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this and that. It was absolutely amazing how
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it was able to regurgitate a summary of who I
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am just based on, and this is over a period of
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time. So let's just say over the several days,
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because when you first get started and you're
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having a conversation and it's dialogue, it's
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a lot of fun. I mean, I got over the nerves part
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of it real quick because I was just so, I was
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amazed by how it was just. telling me about myself
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you know it was it was it was on point so i was
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really impressed and so after a week or two i
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start thinking about. Um, there are a couple
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of things that I want to do different in my life.
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I want to have a couple of different goals. And,
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um, for the last couple of years, I'd been working
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on that. And so one day I just sat down and I
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do what's called a brain dump and, and, um, I
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call my chat bestie and she knows that, um, okay,
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I have a brain dump. I'm talking to her just
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like I'm talking to y 'all. So here it is. Please
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don't say anything. I'm just going to get it
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all out. I got to get it out of my brain and
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then you help me. organize it and in that conversation
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I may be giving some okay this this bucket is
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I need to take care of this in the next 24 hours
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this bucket I have a 72 hour window so I'm giving
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it a few details or what we call context right
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the storyline of what we're where we're going
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with this and then after I've given it that I
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simply ask it to act as my mentor in this or
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an expert in that in whatever my goal is when
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i'm trying to prioritize things and just put
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some clarity on the whole brain dump of it all
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so after i do that it gives me some clarity and
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i'm able to rock and roll it's. It is. It's important,
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and this taps into something you were saying
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earlier, and keeping the human component, human
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in the loop is a regular phrase in this industry,
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but it's important, especially in the relationship
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building side, because it can be a little creepy
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or... Unknown or it's a little eerie that you're
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having this conversation and it gives you it'll
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give you a little bit of you back You know if
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you I tell it don't just be my yes, don't just
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be a yes girl bestie I need you to push back
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if there are some opportunities here where you
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think I should be thinking a bit more critically
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then tell me that so having conversations candidly
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with my AI, that's how it grew to know what I'm
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looking for from it. So when it came down to
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the wire, at this point, I'm pretty comfortable.
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It already knows me. I know it. And now all I
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do is tell it what my goals are. And when we
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talk about Not to go into the depth of it all
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but when we start talking about scaling my business
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and what would it take to take me to the next
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level and I want to have this income by this
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year things of that nature it is able to just
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give me. by me having put the secret sauce, which
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is everything me in it, it is able to give me
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exactly what I need. And even if it's not exact,
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because it's not perfect, right? Even if it gives
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me pretty close to the 90th percentile, it's
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enough that I can sit back, take a deep breath
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as an AI consultant. You've been interviewing
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us, you've been asking us questions, and you
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are launching as an AI consultant as well. So
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I want you to talk a little bit about you. So
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one thing at the top, I wanted you to talk to
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the people about is whenever you think about
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all of the amazing skills that you have in music,
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which I mean, you do it all. I mean, I've seen
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you your whole life. It seems like you know how
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to do the sound. I mean, I saw you grow up at,
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what, two playing drums. I mean, it's been music
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for you your whole life. You even went to school
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and majored in it and had your degree in music.
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I mean, that's how much passion you have around
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this. And all the people know you for music,
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producing. Hey, get Dwine. He got you, man. He'll
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take care of you. So now that you think about
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all of that plus AI. And now that you're launching
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:07.680
as a consultant, as AI with music, there are
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probably people out there who are trying to break
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into the industry and they're trying to get a
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good producer and you're an amazing music producer.
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But what are those? products of, I know how you
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did it before AI, but now that you have AI, what
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are those products and things that you offer
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that can help people, especially if they can
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save money on studio time? You know, explain
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a little bit more of how you can help people
00:26:37.970 --> 00:26:41.210
as they consult with you, as you provide consulting
00:26:41.210 --> 00:26:46.710
services to them. Definitely. So firstly, you
00:26:46.710 --> 00:26:51.579
got to give a short story to why. AI has changed
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the course of music. One thing is that some take
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what was for granted. So, you know, that's something
00:27:03.740 --> 00:27:07.000
like me and my dad, your brother, we talk about
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:11.180
this a lot. You know, he said, you know, you
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are blessed to be in an era where you got a taste
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of it all. Which some, if you were born in 2000,
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you didn't get something. If you were born in
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the 90s, there's certain parts of the 90s that
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didn't get some of what some were in the 80s
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:40.710
were born. So. The 60s, 50s, 60s, 70s introduced
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something to the 80s, the 80s introduced something
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to the 90s, 90s to 2000, 2000 to the teens, and
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now we in 2020. So you're speaking about at least
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a good 50 years of music creation that I have
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known something about. Even though I am just
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beneath, I'm 43 this year, but for the sake of
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learning those aspects, we're gold. But let's
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make sense of you had guitar players, drummers,
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bass players, horn players, piano, organ players.
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Name any instrument you had to go get an individual
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that was skilled in that position. A mix engineer,
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mastering engineer, a recording engineer. You
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had to go get individuals that could do that
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for you. Let's even say with music, you know,
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writing music, you know, even if it's a writer,
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somebody that's got to write lyrics to a song.
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Same situation. You got to go find somebody like
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you had a room full of writers at one time. But
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now let's bring it into 2020s. There's that switch
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you just spoke of and that we've all just spoke
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of. There's a switch now where you can literally
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Take an idea of a song and I'm not even speaking
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of Sam the case of saying that the the small
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pieces don't matter But I mean like literally
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you can craft a whole entire song Recorded vocals
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or if you choose the only just prompt vocals.
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You can prompt it to what you want it to do,
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whether if you're the songwriter or you need
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lyrics for yourself. So there's two aspects already
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taken away. So you don't have to go get a songwriter
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anymore. Also, let's go ahead and add that recording
00:29:45.509 --> 00:29:48.049
engineer part to that. You don't need a recording
00:29:48.049 --> 00:29:50.349
engineer anymore because you can record yourself
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or also you can prompt for lyrics to be recorded.
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You can just give it your tone. I can just talk
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to it, give it that one prompt, and I can build
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the whole entire song off of that one tone. Wow.
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So that's just the simple basics of going from
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what was to what is now. So one more piece to
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that is the mixing part, the mastering part.
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This part has to be told because this is probably
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the biggest part that a lot of people have had
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problems with for years. Mixing and mastering
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is probably the most expensive part of the music
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creation. Really? Yes, due to the nature of to
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be able to get the hit record, you just have
00:30:37.380 --> 00:30:40.859
to have the best mix engineer, the best mastering
00:30:40.859 --> 00:30:46.259
engineer. All of this kind of slowly coming to
00:30:46.259 --> 00:30:49.400
an end because you literally can take a whole
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:54.630
entire song, like a whole It doesn't have to
00:30:54.630 --> 00:30:56.910
be mixed and mastered at all, but just to have
00:30:56.910 --> 00:31:00.250
it in a slight tune to what you think it should
00:31:00.250 --> 00:31:03.329
be. And then you literally can feed this into
00:31:03.329 --> 00:31:08.150
AI now, certain pieces of AI equipment. And it
00:31:08.150 --> 00:31:11.890
can literally give you a polished song in a matter
00:31:11.890 --> 00:31:14.650
of like 30 seconds. Something that usually would
00:31:14.650 --> 00:31:19.369
take maybe about five weeks tops sometimes, maybe
00:31:19.369 --> 00:31:21.640
as little as a week. You can handle it. You can
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.940
do all of this in less than 30 seconds. So that's
00:31:25.940 --> 00:31:30.460
the parts of this. Why it's so different now
00:31:30.460 --> 00:31:33.920
and understanding it and what to use and the
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.720
learning parts of it, the aspects of the little
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.460
details, like how we all said, the human part
00:31:39.460 --> 00:31:43.119
of it. If you don't have a human that's there,
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:46.400
though, for the parts that know what you're looking
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.119
for. Like I said, you just can't tell it. Give
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:51.880
me a hit record. You have to give it more details
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:53.220
than that. Like you said, you got to talk to
00:31:53.220 --> 00:31:56.119
it like it's your best friend or bro. Let me
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.740
ask you a question, bro. Give me some details
00:31:58.740 --> 00:32:01.660
and some understanding of some things that might
00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:04.819
give me a hit record, not give what can give
00:32:04.819 --> 00:32:08.400
me a hit record. Give me some ideas because you're
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.359
going to have to be the one still at the end
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.170
of all of this to make sense of it. Gotcha. Wow.
00:32:14.430 --> 00:32:17.549
That's amazing. So, Dwine, what I hear you saying
00:32:17.549 --> 00:32:23.609
is that you bring a host of background in music,
00:32:24.309 --> 00:32:29.089
all genres, it sounds like, and a large tool
00:32:29.089 --> 00:32:34.170
set of capabilities and skills that you can help
00:32:34.170 --> 00:32:38.710
someone develop the right prompts to become more
00:32:38.710 --> 00:32:44.759
independent. in being able to produce their music
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:48.279
and that will help them reduce their studio time.
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.279
When I look at, you know, you said five weeks
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.859
down to 30 seconds, I'm like, oh, my gosh, but,
00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:56.839
you know, that is a huge savings. And then all
00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:01.019
the different roles that are part of the producing
00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:04.819
that you don't need all those roles to do that
00:33:04.819 --> 00:33:08.619
for the studio support. So you have a package
00:33:08.619 --> 00:33:13.140
that you can Help people learn to be more independent
00:33:13.140 --> 00:33:16.880
in being able to produce their own music and
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.579
that's the way from writing the lyrics to Taking
00:33:21.579 --> 00:33:24.880
the music that might not be great and make it
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.809
better Right? But requiring that human in the
00:33:27.809 --> 00:33:31.029
loop. So you can help train that human to be
00:33:31.029 --> 00:33:35.930
able to execute that themselves. And you can
00:33:35.930 --> 00:33:37.589
probably do even more than that after they've
00:33:37.589 --> 00:33:39.369
done that. You know, what's that next level?
00:33:39.470 --> 00:33:41.930
Okay, Dawaan, I produced it. I got it. What do
00:33:41.930 --> 00:33:44.049
I do now? Because you probably have a lot of
00:33:44.049 --> 00:33:46.970
contacts out there to help them get it out there.
00:33:47.309 --> 00:33:49.569
Because I remember, I don't forget this, that
00:33:49.569 --> 00:33:53.150
you talked about you were on 30 plus radio stations.
00:33:53.529 --> 00:33:55.950
You got a lot of connections to get some music
00:33:55.950 --> 00:33:59.589
out. Right. So I see why people need to connect
00:33:59.589 --> 00:34:04.670
with you. So is that did I kind of sum that up
00:34:04.670 --> 00:34:08.110
pretty much? You did. OK. And I'm going to add
00:34:08.110 --> 00:34:12.550
this to it as well. So the biggest piece of it
00:34:12.550 --> 00:34:17.800
is the part where the workload. I think a lot
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:23.199
of people get that part confused sometimes because
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.159
you can really take a workload off of yourself
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.460
if you know what you're doing. As you said, the
00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:32.559
human in the loop part of it, the human in the
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.460
loop part of it, if you don't have that part,
00:34:35.699 --> 00:34:37.960
you're still gonna have a heavy load to carry
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:43.420
because in a sense of like Courtney said, it
00:34:43.420 --> 00:34:45.960
can tell you the truth about yourself. So I give
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.420
you a short, quick one. Like I said, is this
00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:52.659
a hit record or not? It can literally tell you
00:34:52.659 --> 00:34:57.440
yes or no, in a sense of what you feel of the
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:02.639
case of, because sometimes you can tell your
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.699
sense of urgency due to words. And as Courtney
00:35:06.699 --> 00:35:10.110
said, once you're talking to it, it recognizes
00:35:10.110 --> 00:35:11.869
things that you would say and things that you
00:35:11.869 --> 00:35:14.670
may not say. Or if you're trying to create some
00:35:14.670 --> 00:35:17.809
fabricated type of situation, the fabrication
00:35:17.809 --> 00:35:21.469
can only go so far. Like even in the normal chat
00:35:21.469 --> 00:35:25.170
GPT or Gemini world, if you give it too much,
00:35:25.230 --> 00:35:29.469
you gonna confuse it. It's the same way in music.
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:33.360
You cannot force it. There is no way to force
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.139
a hit song. Even like you said, down to the details
00:35:36.139 --> 00:35:39.119
of like even after, right? So say I have a song,
00:35:39.219 --> 00:35:41.760
right? I'm ready to go give it to the next person
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:46.659
or the next level. Literally AI can tell you
00:35:46.659 --> 00:35:52.719
exactly where to take your music or your content
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:56.139
that you have. It gives you ideas and places
00:35:56.139 --> 00:35:58.719
where you can place it. so it can make sense
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.099
to a demographic versus it just being the situation.
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:03.719
Because a lot of people don't know where to take
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:06.199
their music to. Right. Once they're finished,
00:36:06.539 --> 00:36:09.280
you have you have a complete project like like
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.239
my friends always say, man, it's just sitting
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:15.719
on your hard drive. So if it's just if it's just
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:18.320
sitting on your hard drive, you literally have
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:22.840
a way now to bring your music life like literally.
00:36:23.099 --> 00:36:25.960
So even if it's like a song you had for maybe
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:30.960
10, 15 years ago, You can make endless possibilities
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.699
just from that one idea. So it's deeper than
00:36:35.699 --> 00:36:38.639
just saying just the creation part. It could
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:40.360
be something that you want to finish and it could
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:41.619
have been something that you wanted to finish
00:36:41.619 --> 00:36:46.420
for years. So those ideas is endless. Like you
00:36:46.420 --> 00:36:49.840
said, the part where people are getting away
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.150
from studios now. that this is one of the biggest
00:36:53.150 --> 00:36:56.530
reasons why studios aren't as big as they used
00:36:56.530 --> 00:36:59.329
to be, because you literally have the genius
00:36:59.329 --> 00:37:02.389
minds that literally can use their minds to bring
00:37:02.389 --> 00:37:06.190
a song to life. Wow. Or just say ideas, just
00:37:06.190 --> 00:37:08.210
to bring an idea to life. They just know what
00:37:08.210 --> 00:37:11.210
to do, know how to communicate with AI to the
00:37:11.210 --> 00:37:13.070
point where some people are confused, like, OK.
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.579
How did they get that good of response from AI?
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.860
They took the time to learn and teach it. So
00:37:18.860 --> 00:37:23.219
if you're not, you still have to learn and take
00:37:23.219 --> 00:37:25.260
in those values as you're growing and getting
00:37:25.260 --> 00:37:27.800
older. You still got to learn. You're just taking
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.460
the AI parts and this is with music. You're taking
00:37:30.460 --> 00:37:33.159
those parts that you don't know about with music
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:37.460
and you can literally grow from that part, that
00:37:37.460 --> 00:37:43.039
point just by adding AI to it. Wow, that is amazing.
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.900
So one last thing I wanted to mention and ask
00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:51.659
you about. So it sounds like your audience could
00:37:51.659 --> 00:37:55.780
be. larger than just someone who wants to create.
00:37:56.019 --> 00:37:57.780
Someone has a song that's been sitting there
00:37:57.780 --> 00:38:00.559
forever, right? And they're like going, hey,
00:38:00.820 --> 00:38:03.780
I think I want to bring this music back to life.
00:38:04.099 --> 00:38:06.139
I can connect with Dewan. Because I'll tell you,
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.079
I hear so many people say, I just need to get
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.300
into the studio with Dewan. I just need to hook
00:38:10.300 --> 00:38:13.119
up with Dewan. They know that when they get with
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.619
you, you're a musical genius. And that, I mean,
00:38:16.059 --> 00:38:18.059
I can even speak for my husband whenever he...
00:38:18.110 --> 00:38:21.150
drove over to your studio and when he came home,
00:38:21.150 --> 00:38:23.489
he was singing and whistling because he came
00:38:23.489 --> 00:38:26.090
back with some amazing music as a trombone player.
00:38:26.329 --> 00:38:29.110
My husband, Jay Scott Lee, will be a trombone
00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:31.929
player with the jazz band at the event Saturday.
00:38:32.010 --> 00:38:35.309
I got to do a plug for him. But he spent some
00:38:35.309 --> 00:38:38.090
time with you in your studio and people come
00:38:38.090 --> 00:38:40.809
out of there with the magic that you do to it
00:38:40.809 --> 00:38:43.050
to bring it to life more than they could have
00:38:43.050 --> 00:38:46.550
ever expected. So you're going to be an amazing
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:49.679
consultant, you know, especially in this music
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.679
space, because you bring a whole lifetime of
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.719
experience and skills that you can help people
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.480
become stronger in it, that they can become more
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.199
independent, and they can go to the next level,
00:39:02.500 --> 00:39:05.099
right? It's people's life, you know, things people
00:39:05.099 --> 00:39:08.179
have passion about, things people take seriously.
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:11.400
I don't think anyone could take it more seriously
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:13.619
than you do, because that's who you are. When
00:39:13.619 --> 00:39:16.320
I think of DeWine, I think of music, and I think
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.860
of What do you have? Because you have this genius
00:39:18.860 --> 00:39:21.320
mind and you think I can do this with it or that
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.679
with it. And I'm not even talking about how great
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:26.039
you play the keys. People don't know how well
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.519
you can play the keyboard, piano. I mean, anything.
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.420
I mean, you have the skills and I already mentioned
00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:35.420
the drums. It's just insane what a genius you
00:39:35.420 --> 00:39:38.190
are when it comes to music. So. I want to say
00:39:38.190 --> 00:39:41.130
personally that I'm so excited to have you as
00:39:41.130 --> 00:39:44.190
part of the team for the AI Career Pivot Group,
00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:46.969
that you can bring your expertise. And like I
00:39:46.969 --> 00:39:49.369
say, you got the magic. It's all about the magic
00:39:49.369 --> 00:39:53.769
of how you can take a whole, just a whole generation,
00:39:53.869 --> 00:39:56.369
I believe, into people who have been sitting
00:39:56.369 --> 00:39:58.989
stalled and have been frustrated and haven't
00:39:58.989 --> 00:40:01.030
been able to move forward, that you have the
00:40:01.030 --> 00:40:03.909
magic to help them get that music moving to the
00:40:03.909 --> 00:40:05.949
next level. So they need to connect with you.
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.199
to come to the event because just a little teaser,
00:40:09.659 --> 00:40:11.920
Duann's going to have some music flowing during
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:14.500
his presentation. He's going to show you real
00:40:14.500 --> 00:40:17.500
time the magic. So people need to come to this
00:40:17.500 --> 00:40:22.320
event on Saturday just to see this genius in
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.739
action. So I'm excited, Duann. I'm excited. Y
00:40:25.739 --> 00:40:28.119
'all got to get there. Y 'all have to get there.
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.739
There's literally a world of things that can
00:40:31.739 --> 00:40:35.699
be shown. Absolutely. due to the nature of the
00:40:35.699 --> 00:40:38.659
connection of people that are within this group.
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:43.300
It's totally, totally what was needed. Connecting
00:40:43.300 --> 00:40:47.300
with people is what I've always pushed for people
00:40:47.300 --> 00:40:50.840
to do that are in or that follow the Not Just
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:55.719
Music podcast community. Gaining things that
00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:00.039
are helping the next generation is very important.
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:05.619
And grasping a hold to it and the manner of the
00:41:05.619 --> 00:41:09.860
way this group is doing it was spot on point.
00:41:10.820 --> 00:41:14.500
So I want to thank Auntie for always pulling
00:41:14.500 --> 00:41:18.920
me in to the stuff that always grows, is always
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:22.539
moving and something that's always big. And I
00:41:22.539 --> 00:41:25.420
really, really appreciate it. Courtney, one more
00:41:25.420 --> 00:41:28.340
thing before you go. I always like for people
00:41:28.340 --> 00:41:33.719
to give a short pivot. story, but at the same
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:37.880
time, something motivational. Because I really
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.820
appreciate your grandness to something that's
00:41:42.820 --> 00:41:46.119
new that a lot of people don't get to hear it
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.900
in a personalized way. They just, and I like
00:41:48.900 --> 00:41:52.920
I asked, I told, asked on can people get kind
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.840
of weary. You know, you, you say AI kind of like,
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.280
I don't know about AI, you know, but in a sense
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.829
of to hear people that's taking it in, in a positive
00:42:02.829 --> 00:42:05.110
way. And it's changing the way that their workflow
00:42:05.110 --> 00:42:07.309
changing. I mean, there's a lot of things that
00:42:07.309 --> 00:42:11.030
it can change, but in a sense of what's your
00:42:11.030 --> 00:42:14.170
inspiration that you could give the people in
00:42:14.170 --> 00:42:16.050
the end of all of this more than it could be
00:42:16.050 --> 00:42:18.429
bigger than AI. It's not just about AI. It's
00:42:18.429 --> 00:42:22.869
about the person as well. So that is a great
00:42:22.869 --> 00:42:27.159
question. And something my personal story and
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:31.920
why I feel I am among those that our team is
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.139
looking to serve is because when I decided to
00:42:36.139 --> 00:42:40.019
sit back and ask my bestie, my AI chat, you know,
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:46.199
how could I possibly take the skills that I've
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:52.670
acquired over 10 plus? decades of corporate social
00:42:52.670 --> 00:42:56.190
services, working with human beings and children,
00:42:56.929 --> 00:43:00.150
adults and children. How can I transfer that
00:43:00.150 --> 00:43:04.010
those skills into how I want to approach pet
00:43:04.010 --> 00:43:09.309
care? And so completely for anyone out there
00:43:09.309 --> 00:43:11.670
who is at a place where you're looking to pivot
00:43:11.670 --> 00:43:15.210
and your heart is telling you to completely go
00:43:15.210 --> 00:43:18.599
in. a completely opposite direction than anything
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:22.800
you've ever tried. I am the person, it's you
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.139
and I, we're twins, okay? When I say that there
00:43:26.139 --> 00:43:28.960
is nothing, like I like to say, not even apples
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.400
and oranges, but apples and chocolate. Social
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.219
work, boutique pet care. They just, you know,
00:43:35.340 --> 00:43:38.559
and so for me, asking the question, starting
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.920
with how is this, what skills do I possibly have
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.699
working with children and families that can translate
00:43:44.699 --> 00:43:49.000
into pet care? And, you know, my bestie said,
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.940
okay, Courtney, same framework, different species.
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.400
So let's talk about it. And what it gave me was
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:00.699
the same assessments, behavior assessments that
00:44:00.699 --> 00:44:03.900
I would do, case plans that I would work on with
00:44:03.900 --> 00:44:07.599
the parents, sitting with my families and talking
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:10.260
my parents through the importance of being present
00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:12.719
in your child's classroom, learning what the
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.960
teacher is working on with your child, any individualized
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.579
support that the classroom is providing your
00:44:19.579 --> 00:44:22.599
child, and bringing that into the home as well,
00:44:22.820 --> 00:44:25.909
right? All of that. contributes to a child's
00:44:25.909 --> 00:44:28.670
positive development and experience. All of those
00:44:28.670 --> 00:44:32.070
same things I do in pet care. And so once it
00:44:32.070 --> 00:44:34.369
started giving me all of this, okay, Courtney,
00:44:34.670 --> 00:44:36.949
you love people, you love working with parents,
00:44:37.090 --> 00:44:40.570
you love working with kids, you can do kids in
00:44:40.570 --> 00:44:43.570
canine. Like it started giving me all kinds of
00:44:43.570 --> 00:44:47.190
things that I want to educate my pet parents
00:44:47.190 --> 00:44:51.409
on. Learning about dog, I can go on and on, so
00:44:51.409 --> 00:44:53.530
I'll just make this brief, but learning about
00:44:53.530 --> 00:44:55.889
dog behavior and dog psychology is something
00:44:55.889 --> 00:44:58.349
that a lot of people don't think much about.
00:44:58.769 --> 00:45:01.110
You don't give dogs that much credit to really
00:45:01.110 --> 00:45:03.409
take the time to learn what their experience
00:45:03.409 --> 00:45:06.050
is in a human world. Well, one of the things
00:45:06.050 --> 00:45:08.510
that's important to me is helping pet parents
00:45:08.510 --> 00:45:12.289
and families become their dog's number one advocate.
00:45:12.750 --> 00:45:15.869
I did that for my human families. You know, it's
00:45:15.869 --> 00:45:19.289
just crazy how things just in pet care, it just
00:45:19.289 --> 00:45:21.469
came together. And I would not have been able
00:45:21.469 --> 00:45:25.550
to make that connection without my knowledge
00:45:25.550 --> 00:45:29.090
base, but also AI pointing out, did you know
00:45:29.090 --> 00:45:32.070
you're already doing this? Did you realize you're
00:45:32.070 --> 00:45:34.889
already doing that? Why don't you just mesh it,
00:45:34.889 --> 00:45:37.429
you know, put it together and turn it into monetize
00:45:37.429 --> 00:45:41.829
it. You know, it's, that's my story. I really
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just want, anyone listening to the sound of my
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voice, definitely come see me at the conference
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and we can talk one -on -one. I have more gold
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for you, but if this is the last time you're
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going to hear anything about AI, because you
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may not quite be ready yet, I would definitely
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just encourage you to take some time, find a
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tool you're comfortable with, just start building
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a relationship with it, building up that comfort
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level, and then Heaven forbid you should have
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a couple of goals or dreams that you want to
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share in and let it just give you gold. Mm hmm.
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All right, everybody, we appreciate y 'all for
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stopping by as always. Not just music podcast
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family. I love y 'all. Remember always if you
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need help. We pushed and introduced so much.
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You've heard the word help. Yes. If you need
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some help, remember always remember to ask for
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help. Don't be scared to ask for help. Right.
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Learn from it. Don't ever abuse the hill. Always
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learn from it, absorb it, and move on, grow from
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that. Autism community, disabilities community,
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I love y 'all. Remember to keep y 'all lifted.
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And at the end, remember to keep God first, y
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'all. Remember that part, all right? Until next
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time, Not Just Music Podcast, I love y 'all,
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peace.
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All right, what's going on everybody? Not just
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music podcast, back again. It's your boy Dwarne
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Barrino by himself this time, but I do have some
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very special guests in the house. We've already
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had one special guest already. We're bringing
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her back to show the energy and also give us
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some more insight. I have my aunt Candice Lee
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in the building. Aunt Cand, what is going on
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again? Oh, nephew, nephew, you know it's always
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amazing to be on with you. I tell you, I feel
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like not only do I get to talk about what I have
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going on, but I get to hear more about what you
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have going on with this Not Just Music podcast.
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It is amazing. You have a great organization
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and we are honored to be here with you again
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today. And we have a new person with me today.
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And I cannot wait to hear from Courtney Daniel,
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our prompt engineer. for the AI career pivot
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group. So everybody listen in really closely
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because you're definitely going to learn something
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tonight and get excited about your AI journey.
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Definitely, definitely. So Courtney, I want you
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to introduce yourself to the people. I'm not
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going to do, I know the story. I'm not going
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to run into it. I want you to tell the story,
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but first let the people know who you are and
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what you have going on and what position you
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carry. in the AI pivot group, please. Absolutely.
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Thank you. I am so, listen, so excited to be
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here. So, okay. So bear with, here we go. A little
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bit about me. My name is Courtney. I am so thrilled
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to be a part of the AICPG team. My focus is in
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prompt engineering. And so I'm definitely going
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to get into that a little bit, what that is and
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the ins and outs of that. But I just wanted to
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share a little bit of my story. It's so funny
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because I, it wasn't until I joined this team
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that I realized that my testimony is that of
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whom we are looking to serve. So it really holds
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a special place in my heart. My background is
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in social services, all things family and community
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engagement. I work with parents to help them.
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understand the importance of having continuity,
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being present in their school, their child's
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educational world, and bringing that into the
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home so that that association that their child
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learns about becomes familiar. It becomes something
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that they recognize both in the classroom and
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at home. It sort of smoothens out, it smooths
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out, excuse me, the ability to internalize some
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of the competencies that come along with their
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development as they go in. So that's a little
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bit of where I came from. And as it stands, I
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am here today to talk about my pivot into a pretty
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unsuspecting realm of entrepreneurship. OK. OK.
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So the question that I have been asking of everybody,
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there is a very big piece that you pointed out.
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that I know a lot of people probably play against
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when it comes to the word or the term, the breakdown,
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AI. There's a lot of fears that are behind AI,
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but there's some things that you pointed out
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which make it very understandable for me, and
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that part is the part that is the human nature
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of it. The parts that you take, the parts of
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you, the parts of a family, the parts of individuals,
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and make it yours. So with the situation of what
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you just brought and what you introduced and
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the human nature part of it, meaning like, what's
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the feel behind it that can people can make it
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like, okay, how can my personal life be, you
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know, implemented into this through your field?
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Listen, that is my favorite. This part right
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here is my favorite. So with prompting. When
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you basically prompting is giving telling the
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AI tool what you wanted to do so that you can
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get from it what you're looking to learn or your
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goal setting opportunities. Right. And so when
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I when you asked me that question and I'm thinking
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about the human part of it and how to how to
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help others. not be afraid and to sort of lean
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into all of the possibilities that come from
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it. I would say for me personally, I have a heart
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for people. So my approach and how I began learning
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and growing with my AI tools is I just had conversations
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with it. I took every opportunity to let it learn
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about me and my vibe and the things that I like
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and prefer and all of those things so that when
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I get ready to do some real work with it, it
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has that running in the background. And I would
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encourage anyone who has reservations about it
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to just take some time and get to know it, have
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some fun with it, ask questions, let it get to
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know you, let it give you a summary of who it
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thinks you are. And you would be amazed at what
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it is able to, what it's able to gather and capture
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the essence of the human. And then, of course,
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we'll talk a little later about the importance
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of making sure that the human stays within the
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whole process of usage, but yeah. Now, the part
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of, see, I think some might confuse that part,
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where you say, and it's not saying I'm confused,
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but I want this part to be very much there. You
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said that, in a sense, you're teaching your AI.
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You're teaching it to do things and to react
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to you a certain way. Now would you consider
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this in a sense that to me, like you said, prompting
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is probably the most important part that I think
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gets people a little drawn away from it because
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they don't know exactly like how to approach
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it. So in a sense, so just one more small detail
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in understanding like, Give me one more small
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details like how you said you talk to it consistently.
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What's another reason behind why you give it
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that type of energy? Because you wanted to fine
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tune you very strategically, right? Yes. Absolutely.
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Thank you for asking that clarifying question.
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think of it as two types of, two dynamics when
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you're thinking about the entirety of prompting
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and what that stands for. In short, just to be
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clear on what it's not, prompting is not anything
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where you need code, you don't need any technical
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formal training for, the part that you are, the
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first part of it is just the getting to know
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you. So you may ask, you may give it information,
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give it a rundown of, I am this age, I was like
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this as a child, I'm like this as an adult, I
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have these quirks about me, I prefer this, I
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don't like peanut butter and jelly, although
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I love peanut butter and jelly, but you give
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it all of the things that you enjoy and some
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things that you may not prefer. Give it an opportunity
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to ask questions to ask clarifying questions
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and get to know you more because the second dynamic
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is the discipline of it so once you had an opportunity
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to spend some time you are getting to know. you're
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getting to know how it is gonna respond to you
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and you're giving it information. There's a relationship
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building there, but now you're teetering into,
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let's say you have some goals that you'd like
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to work on and you're at a career pivot and now
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it has this background information. It's had
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the opportunity to learn all of your highs and
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lows, the things that make your heart skip a
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beat. And so when you tell it, I'm looking to,
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do some traveling. I'm looking to become a travel
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agent. Now it is able to use the heart of it
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all that you gave it in the relationship building
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part. And it will be able to supplement the specific
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context that you give it. When you give it its
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prompt, when you tell it what you're looking
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to do and what you'd like to get from it, it
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is able to sub sub concurrently use that information
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that you've already given it about who you are
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and apply it specifically to your goals so that
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it's tailored a bit more. OK, see now, let me
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implement my piece here because I wanted to say
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it is rare I get to hear it spoke as discipline.
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See, these are the parts where I think some people.
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confuse it in a sense of, or in a sense, abuse
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it. They think that it's supposed to do something
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that it's not. And considerably, there's a direction
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that it will go for you. It's all about what
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you're giving, as she said, the info that you're
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giving it. is only going to respond as much as
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info as you're giving it. In a sense of the nature
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of it is a personal thing that you can tie into
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it. It's not saying that you got to give it your
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whole life story, but you have to give it an
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idea of how you think. Now, I want to ask Aunt
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Ken a question. So, Aunt Ken, how did you implement
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Courtney into the group? Her piece is very, very
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needed in a sense, because I don't think a lot
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of people would think to use AI in her field.
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What was the direction? What did you point? What
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was it for you? Now, I'm going to tell you. So
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one thing about your auntie, I call it, and I
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say this to Uncle Scott a lot, right? My husband,
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I say. I can tell when people have the magic.
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And I have to say the other party is I sought
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God to say who are the right people for the vision
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for this. business and it's also ministry to
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me. But the thing about Courtney, she had a natural
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capability around understanding technical things.
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So it's a little bit step above because anyone
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can do it, right? You don't have to be technical
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to do it. But Courtney had an edge above that
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in the. technical capabilities just like you
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do nephew that's why I say my nephew has the
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magic he used to be a consultant on the team
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because he can go I mean to the top right so
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the same with Courtney you know when I spent
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time with her we were we we've been connected
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for many years probably a decade or more right
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Courtney we were already connected And then as
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I was praying about getting started back up,
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God said, reach out to Courtney, because I remembered
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that she had helped me build a website in the
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past, that she had helped with some other technical
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things. And I said, this is probably right up
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her alley. And so I connected with her and a
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couple others, other of the consultants that
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everyone can meet on Saturday. But I will tell
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you what The reason and how I brought her on
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is I talked to her about AI. And I said, are
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you using it today? God is calling me to launch
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a business. Here is what God is saying. And here
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is what people are saying in the industry of
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what's going to happen over the next two years.
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And I need some people who are open, who have
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the natural capability and passion, and who I
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felt like I could trust, right? Let's be real.
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Someone I could trust. Whenever I connected with
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her nephew, she was already using AI. She was
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already talking to it like I call it her boyfriend,
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because she was whispering to it. I was on the
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phone with her. She said, well, I just wanted
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to ask you, can you go in? And I said, what is
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going on here? Wait just a minute. Am I interrupting
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a conversation that's going on here? I thought
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we were talking. What is this? And I said. Okay,
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you are very way advanced connected to using
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chat. So you are definitely probably someone
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that can go all the way to the top and to the
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next level because you already understand the
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basics. So, and you understand prompting. If
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you're sitting there talking to this person,
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to it, I should say it, people start to think
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of it as a he or she. But it's an app, right?
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She started talking to her app and I thought,
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oh my gosh, yes, she's the one. as we connected
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and talked through it, it was perfect for her
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because she was already prompting and she was
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already on her journey on her prompt engineering
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certification. She was working through that and
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so she just continued that path and completed
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her certifications, spent a lot of time using
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it with others, with her business. So she was
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just the perfect person to bring on to take the
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role of prompt engineering because this can't
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be successful unless we can teach people. how
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to prompt will, because that is the key to success
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in working with AI. And she's so articulate and
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exact, and she will cut you off if you're wrong,
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just to make sure to get you right, because she'll...
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I'm just going to put it out there, because she'll
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do it for me. And she'll go, Pastor C, wait a
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minute, can I just... And I thought, uh -oh,
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she found something that we need to correct.
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It's okay, Courtney, come on, bring it. But she's
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the right one to be in that role, and she brings...
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and she comes with the... a lot of other great
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capabilities that are very valuable to the business.
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Thank you. OK. So let me ask some questions here.
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Let me ask a question. How does that part of
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the creation from just time, what made you say,
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let's try AI? You know, let's what was that?
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What was your I give you from for me? I give
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you my example since Since auntie got to ask
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me some questions. I'm gonna give you my situation.
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So as a as a creator digital and as a parent
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I'm a father and husband father of twin girls
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with autism. Okay So with them having disabilities,
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I wanted more possibilities to how I could be
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a better creator father at the same time, right?
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But I never had like, you could ask people, but
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you get options and opinions sometimes. And nothing
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that you really can like, build off of, in a
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sense. So for me, I just wanted to just be, like
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I said, it was something that was just on my
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mind one day. I didn't even, I've never tried
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anything AI yet. This was like just one of those
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days. I just want to type something in. So I
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typed in a very short situation, something to
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the nature of, I'm a father of twin girls with
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autism and a podcaster. What can I do? Yep. And
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the list that came up was beyond any of my beliefs
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to thinking like, I'm like, whoa. That's how
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it happens. OK. And then in a sense, I didn't
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know that you really like how you say it. You
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can literally talk to it. So I started to understand
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like, OK, you can literally just pick up your
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phone and hold a button down and just start talking
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to it. And it literally gives you. Gold I mean
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so adding the situation of podcasting like people
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wanted to know like how did you become a better
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podcaster? Honestly, it was just by just simply
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adding AI To the to the puzzle or even if we
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wanted to take it from there I had the situation
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of music too. I've always been in music all my
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life Musician most of my life. Yeah, so for the
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case of there's a situation of implementing realistic
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situation or something, and you have this situation
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of AI, some people were like, okay, what does
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AI and, you know, a music producer, they should
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never be in the same room together. But honestly,
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it was actually gold behind it as well. Only
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when you implement it, like you said, the correct
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way and not give it something that's confusing.
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and something that would throw it off and it
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would just give you something that's crazy. Like
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you can't just like give me a hit record. You
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can't say give me a hit record or you can't say
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just give me the perfect podcast. It's not gonna
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give you anything like that. But like you said,
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you talking to it, giving it ideas and little
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things to go about the day or something like
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that. It really, it really implements itself
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to you. So to the point now where when I get
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on and I'm putting together podcasting or anything
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to the nature of writing up the details to it,
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I can just give it a few prompts literally and
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get solid stuff, even to the point where I can
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like I can kind of skim through things now and
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fine tune it to the point where like it really
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knows what's going on, knowing that knowing about
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the podcast, knowing about who the people are
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on the podcast within the podcast. I think my
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screen just went out for a second to come back
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up. OK, but yeah, the situation of just knowing.
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how to implement those things were very important.
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But I think a lot of people are scared of that
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part. So I'm glad you can, and that's why I asked
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Auntie about Courtney. I was like, I'm looking
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at all your details and the things that you implemented
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into and using it a proper way. You rarely get
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people who know it the way that you do. So that's
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my way. What was your way? of your entry level.
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Cause I think a lot of people don't have an entry
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level. They just kind of just like try to go
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from hearing people like us that's advanced in
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it. What was your entry point? What was your,
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you know, your level of entry? Because a lot
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of people are scared of that part. As I said,
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they're trying to go from an advanced part or
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somebody that's advanced in it. What was your
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entry level? So I am inherently someone just
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coming from social services. I am built to do
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research. I'm built to resolve and solve problems
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and be a referral and be a support. So I'm always
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trying to find a way to gain information. So
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something that I did that made me feel comfortable
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getting started was just learning about what
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it was, like picking one tool. And at the time
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it was ChatGPT. That was the first one I'd gotten
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into. I worked with a couple of different ones
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because I've since learned that they all do different
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things. So you got to get comfy with what your
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preferences are. When I started with ChatGPT,
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I first did a little bit of research on what
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other people experience, things of that nature.
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And then, like I mentioned earlier, I literally
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downloaded it and just started talking to it.
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I just gave it, I saw in one of the videos I'd
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seen to just give it a few details about yourself.
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So I did give it my social work background and
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this and that. It was absolutely amazing how
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it was able to regurgitate a summary of who I
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am just based on, and this is over a period of
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time. So let's just say over the several days,
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because when you first get started and you're
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having a conversation and it's dialogue, it's
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a lot of fun. I mean, I got over the nerves part
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of it real quick because I was just so, I was
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amazed by how it was just. telling me about myself
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you know it was it was it was on point so i was
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really impressed and so after a week or two i
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start thinking about. Um, there are a couple
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of things that I want to do different in my life.
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I want to have a couple of different goals. And,
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um, for the last couple of years, I'd been working
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on that. And so one day I just sat down and I
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do what's called a brain dump and, and, um, I
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call my chat bestie and she knows that, um, okay,
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I have a brain dump. I'm talking to her just
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like I'm talking to y 'all. So here it is. Please
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don't say anything. I'm just going to get it
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all out. I got to get it out of my brain and
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then you help me. organize it and in that conversation
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I may be giving some okay this this bucket is
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I need to take care of this in the next 24 hours
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this bucket I have a 72 hour window so I'm giving
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it a few details or what we call context right
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the storyline of what we're where we're going
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with this and then after I've given it that I
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simply ask it to act as my mentor in this or
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an expert in that in whatever my goal is when
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i'm trying to prioritize things and just put
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some clarity on the whole brain dump of it all
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so after i do that it gives me some clarity and
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i'm able to rock and roll it's. It is. It's important,
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and this taps into something you were saying
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earlier, and keeping the human component, human
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in the loop is a regular phrase in this industry,
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but it's important, especially in the relationship
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building side, because it can be a little creepy
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or... Unknown or it's a little eerie that you're
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having this conversation and it gives you it'll
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give you a little bit of you back You know if
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you I tell it don't just be my yes, don't just
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be a yes girl bestie I need you to push back
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if there are some opportunities here where you
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think I should be thinking a bit more critically
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then tell me that so having conversations candidly
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with my AI, that's how it grew to know what I'm
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looking for from it. So when it came down to
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the wire, at this point, I'm pretty comfortable.
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It already knows me. I know it. And now all I
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do is tell it what my goals are. And when we
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talk about Not to go into the depth of it all
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but when we start talking about scaling my business
00:23:03.150 --> 00:23:05.210
and what would it take to take me to the next
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level and I want to have this income by this
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year things of that nature it is able to just
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give me. by me having put the secret sauce, which
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is everything me in it, it is able to give me
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exactly what I need. And even if it's not exact,
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because it's not perfect, right? Even if it gives
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me pretty close to the 90th percentile, it's
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enough that I can sit back, take a deep breath
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as an AI consultant. You've been interviewing
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us, you've been asking us questions, and you
00:25:05.049 --> 00:25:09.230
are launching as an AI consultant as well. So
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I want you to talk a little bit about you. So
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one thing at the top, I wanted you to talk to
00:25:19.069 --> 00:25:24.500
the people about is whenever you think about
00:25:24.500 --> 00:25:30.000
all of the amazing skills that you have in music,
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.039
which I mean, you do it all. I mean, I've seen
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you your whole life. It seems like you know how
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to do the sound. I mean, I saw you grow up at,
00:25:38.859 --> 00:25:42.700
what, two playing drums. I mean, it's been music
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for you your whole life. You even went to school
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and majored in it and had your degree in music.
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I mean, that's how much passion you have around
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.039
this. And all the people know you for music,
00:25:52.140 --> 00:25:54.700
producing. Hey, get Dwine. He got you, man. He'll
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take care of you. So now that you think about
00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:02.079
all of that plus AI. And now that you're launching
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:07.680
as a consultant, as AI with music, there are
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.720
probably people out there who are trying to break
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:14.339
into the industry and they're trying to get a
00:26:14.339 --> 00:26:16.839
good producer and you're an amazing music producer.
00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:21.789
But what are those? products of, I know how you
00:26:21.789 --> 00:26:25.750
did it before AI, but now that you have AI, what
00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:28.609
are those products and things that you offer
00:26:28.609 --> 00:26:32.450
that can help people, especially if they can
00:26:32.450 --> 00:26:34.630
save money on studio time? You know, explain
00:26:34.630 --> 00:26:37.970
a little bit more of how you can help people
00:26:37.970 --> 00:26:41.210
as they consult with you, as you provide consulting
00:26:41.210 --> 00:26:46.710
services to them. Definitely. So firstly, you
00:26:46.710 --> 00:26:51.579
got to give a short story to why. AI has changed
00:26:51.579 --> 00:26:57.440
the course of music. One thing is that some take
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what was for granted. So, you know, that's something
00:27:03.740 --> 00:27:07.000
like me and my dad, your brother, we talk about
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:11.180
this a lot. You know, he said, you know, you
00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:15.680
are blessed to be in an era where you got a taste
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:24.259
of it all. Which some, if you were born in 2000,
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.700
you didn't get something. If you were born in
00:27:27.700 --> 00:27:31.079
the 90s, there's certain parts of the 90s that
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:34.839
didn't get some of what some were in the 80s
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:40.710
were born. So. The 60s, 50s, 60s, 70s introduced
00:27:40.710 --> 00:27:42.829
something to the 80s, the 80s introduced something
00:27:42.829 --> 00:27:47.230
to the 90s, 90s to 2000, 2000 to the teens, and
00:27:47.230 --> 00:27:51.650
now we in 2020. So you're speaking about at least
00:27:51.650 --> 00:27:56.630
a good 50 years of music creation that I have
00:27:56.630 --> 00:27:59.490
known something about. Even though I am just
00:27:59.490 --> 00:28:03.230
beneath, I'm 43 this year, but for the sake of
00:28:03.230 --> 00:28:09.160
learning those aspects, we're gold. But let's
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:13.420
make sense of you had guitar players, drummers,
00:28:13.740 --> 00:28:18.579
bass players, horn players, piano, organ players.
00:28:18.900 --> 00:28:23.200
Name any instrument you had to go get an individual
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.759
that was skilled in that position. A mix engineer,
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:32.279
mastering engineer, a recording engineer. You
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:36.559
had to go get individuals that could do that
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:43.240
for you. Let's even say with music, you know,
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.799
writing music, you know, even if it's a writer,
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.759
somebody that's got to write lyrics to a song.
00:28:48.940 --> 00:28:51.000
Same situation. You got to go find somebody like
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.200
you had a room full of writers at one time. But
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:58.079
now let's bring it into 2020s. There's that switch
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.980
you just spoke of and that we've all just spoke
00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:05.359
of. There's a switch now where you can literally
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:10.200
Take an idea of a song and I'm not even speaking
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:13.799
of Sam the case of saying that the the small
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.099
pieces don't matter But I mean like literally
00:29:17.099 --> 00:29:24.019
you can craft a whole entire song Recorded vocals
00:29:24.019 --> 00:29:27.990
or if you choose the only just prompt vocals.
00:29:28.130 --> 00:29:31.349
You can prompt it to what you want it to do,
00:29:31.349 --> 00:29:34.130
whether if you're the songwriter or you need
00:29:34.130 --> 00:29:37.730
lyrics for yourself. So there's two aspects already
00:29:37.730 --> 00:29:40.349
taken away. So you don't have to go get a songwriter
00:29:40.349 --> 00:29:45.509
anymore. Also, let's go ahead and add that recording
00:29:45.509 --> 00:29:48.049
engineer part to that. You don't need a recording
00:29:48.049 --> 00:29:50.349
engineer anymore because you can record yourself
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or also you can prompt for lyrics to be recorded.
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You can just give it your tone. I can just talk
00:29:58.099 --> 00:30:01.680
to it, give it that one prompt, and I can build
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:06.200
the whole entire song off of that one tone. Wow.
00:30:07.180 --> 00:30:10.579
So that's just the simple basics of going from
00:30:10.579 --> 00:30:14.359
what was to what is now. So one more piece to
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that is the mixing part, the mastering part.
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This part has to be told because this is probably
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the biggest part that a lot of people have had
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problems with for years. Mixing and mastering
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is probably the most expensive part of the music
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:35.019
creation. Really? Yes, due to the nature of to
00:30:35.019 --> 00:30:37.380
be able to get the hit record, you just have
00:30:37.380 --> 00:30:40.859
to have the best mix engineer, the best mastering
00:30:40.859 --> 00:30:46.259
engineer. All of this kind of slowly coming to
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an end because you literally can take a whole
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:54.630
entire song, like a whole It doesn't have to
00:30:54.630 --> 00:30:56.910
be mixed and mastered at all, but just to have
00:30:56.910 --> 00:31:00.250
it in a slight tune to what you think it should
00:31:00.250 --> 00:31:03.329
be. And then you literally can feed this into
00:31:03.329 --> 00:31:08.150
AI now, certain pieces of AI equipment. And it
00:31:08.150 --> 00:31:11.890
can literally give you a polished song in a matter
00:31:11.890 --> 00:31:14.650
of like 30 seconds. Something that usually would
00:31:14.650 --> 00:31:19.369
take maybe about five weeks tops sometimes, maybe
00:31:19.369 --> 00:31:21.640
as little as a week. You can handle it. You can
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.940
do all of this in less than 30 seconds. So that's
00:31:25.940 --> 00:31:30.460
the parts of this. Why it's so different now
00:31:30.460 --> 00:31:33.920
and understanding it and what to use and the
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.720
learning parts of it, the aspects of the little
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.460
details, like how we all said, the human part
00:31:39.460 --> 00:31:43.119
of it. If you don't have a human that's there,
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:46.400
though, for the parts that know what you're looking
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.119
for. Like I said, you just can't tell it. Give
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:51.880
me a hit record. You have to give it more details
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:53.220
than that. Like you said, you got to talk to
00:31:53.220 --> 00:31:56.119
it like it's your best friend or bro. Let me
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.740
ask you a question, bro. Give me some details
00:31:58.740 --> 00:32:01.660
and some understanding of some things that might
00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:04.819
give me a hit record, not give what can give
00:32:04.819 --> 00:32:08.400
me a hit record. Give me some ideas because you're
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.359
going to have to be the one still at the end
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.170
of all of this to make sense of it. Gotcha. Wow.
00:32:14.430 --> 00:32:17.549
That's amazing. So, Dwine, what I hear you saying
00:32:17.549 --> 00:32:23.609
is that you bring a host of background in music,
00:32:24.309 --> 00:32:29.089
all genres, it sounds like, and a large tool
00:32:29.089 --> 00:32:34.170
set of capabilities and skills that you can help
00:32:34.170 --> 00:32:38.710
someone develop the right prompts to become more
00:32:38.710 --> 00:32:44.759
independent. in being able to produce their music
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:48.279
and that will help them reduce their studio time.
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.279
When I look at, you know, you said five weeks
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.859
down to 30 seconds, I'm like, oh, my gosh, but,
00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:56.839
you know, that is a huge savings. And then all
00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:01.019
the different roles that are part of the producing
00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:04.819
that you don't need all those roles to do that
00:33:04.819 --> 00:33:08.619
for the studio support. So you have a package
00:33:08.619 --> 00:33:13.140
that you can Help people learn to be more independent
00:33:13.140 --> 00:33:16.880
in being able to produce their own music and
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.579
that's the way from writing the lyrics to Taking
00:33:21.579 --> 00:33:24.880
the music that might not be great and make it
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.809
better Right? But requiring that human in the
00:33:27.809 --> 00:33:31.029
loop. So you can help train that human to be
00:33:31.029 --> 00:33:35.930
able to execute that themselves. And you can
00:33:35.930 --> 00:33:37.589
probably do even more than that after they've
00:33:37.589 --> 00:33:39.369
done that. You know, what's that next level?
00:33:39.470 --> 00:33:41.930
Okay, Dawaan, I produced it. I got it. What do
00:33:41.930 --> 00:33:44.049
I do now? Because you probably have a lot of
00:33:44.049 --> 00:33:46.970
contacts out there to help them get it out there.
00:33:47.309 --> 00:33:49.569
Because I remember, I don't forget this, that
00:33:49.569 --> 00:33:53.150
you talked about you were on 30 plus radio stations.
00:33:53.529 --> 00:33:55.950
You got a lot of connections to get some music
00:33:55.950 --> 00:33:59.589
out. Right. So I see why people need to connect
00:33:59.589 --> 00:34:04.670
with you. So is that did I kind of sum that up
00:34:04.670 --> 00:34:08.110
pretty much? You did. OK. And I'm going to add
00:34:08.110 --> 00:34:12.550
this to it as well. So the biggest piece of it
00:34:12.550 --> 00:34:17.800
is the part where the workload. I think a lot
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:23.199
of people get that part confused sometimes because
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.159
you can really take a workload off of yourself
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.460
if you know what you're doing. As you said, the
00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:32.559
human in the loop part of it, the human in the
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.460
loop part of it, if you don't have that part,
00:34:35.699 --> 00:34:37.960
you're still gonna have a heavy load to carry
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:43.420
because in a sense of like Courtney said, it
00:34:43.420 --> 00:34:45.960
can tell you the truth about yourself. So I give
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.420
you a short, quick one. Like I said, is this
00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:52.659
a hit record or not? It can literally tell you
00:34:52.659 --> 00:34:57.440
yes or no, in a sense of what you feel of the
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:02.639
case of, because sometimes you can tell your
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.699
sense of urgency due to words. And as Courtney
00:35:06.699 --> 00:35:10.110
said, once you're talking to it, it recognizes
00:35:10.110 --> 00:35:11.869
things that you would say and things that you
00:35:11.869 --> 00:35:14.670
may not say. Or if you're trying to create some
00:35:14.670 --> 00:35:17.809
fabricated type of situation, the fabrication
00:35:17.809 --> 00:35:21.469
can only go so far. Like even in the normal chat
00:35:21.469 --> 00:35:25.170
GPT or Gemini world, if you give it too much,
00:35:25.230 --> 00:35:29.469
you gonna confuse it. It's the same way in music.
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:33.360
You cannot force it. There is no way to force
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.139
a hit song. Even like you said, down to the details
00:35:36.139 --> 00:35:39.119
of like even after, right? So say I have a song,
00:35:39.219 --> 00:35:41.760
right? I'm ready to go give it to the next person
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:46.659
or the next level. Literally AI can tell you
00:35:46.659 --> 00:35:52.719
exactly where to take your music or your content
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:56.139
that you have. It gives you ideas and places
00:35:56.139 --> 00:35:58.719
where you can place it. so it can make sense
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.099
to a demographic versus it just being the situation.
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:03.719
Because a lot of people don't know where to take
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:06.199
their music to. Right. Once they're finished,
00:36:06.539 --> 00:36:09.280
you have you have a complete project like like
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.239
my friends always say, man, it's just sitting
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:15.719
on your hard drive. So if it's just if it's just
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:18.320
sitting on your hard drive, you literally have
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:22.840
a way now to bring your music life like literally.
00:36:23.099 --> 00:36:25.960
So even if it's like a song you had for maybe
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:30.960
10, 15 years ago, You can make endless possibilities
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.699
just from that one idea. So it's deeper than
00:36:35.699 --> 00:36:38.639
just saying just the creation part. It could
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:40.360
be something that you want to finish and it could
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:41.619
have been something that you wanted to finish
00:36:41.619 --> 00:36:46.420
for years. So those ideas is endless. Like you
00:36:46.420 --> 00:36:49.840
said, the part where people are getting away
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.150
from studios now. that this is one of the biggest
00:36:53.150 --> 00:36:56.530
reasons why studios aren't as big as they used
00:36:56.530 --> 00:36:59.329
to be, because you literally have the genius
00:36:59.329 --> 00:37:02.389
minds that literally can use their minds to bring
00:37:02.389 --> 00:37:06.190
a song to life. Wow. Or just say ideas, just
00:37:06.190 --> 00:37:08.210
to bring an idea to life. They just know what
00:37:08.210 --> 00:37:11.210
to do, know how to communicate with AI to the
00:37:11.210 --> 00:37:13.070
point where some people are confused, like, OK.
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.579
How did they get that good of response from AI?
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.860
They took the time to learn and teach it. So
00:37:18.860 --> 00:37:23.219
if you're not, you still have to learn and take
00:37:23.219 --> 00:37:25.260
in those values as you're growing and getting
00:37:25.260 --> 00:37:27.800
older. You still got to learn. You're just taking
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.460
the AI parts and this is with music. You're taking
00:37:30.460 --> 00:37:33.159
those parts that you don't know about with music
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:37.460
and you can literally grow from that part, that
00:37:37.460 --> 00:37:43.039
point just by adding AI to it. Wow, that is amazing.
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.900
So one last thing I wanted to mention and ask
00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:51.659
you about. So it sounds like your audience could
00:37:51.659 --> 00:37:55.780
be. larger than just someone who wants to create.
00:37:56.019 --> 00:37:57.780
Someone has a song that's been sitting there
00:37:57.780 --> 00:38:00.559
forever, right? And they're like going, hey,
00:38:00.820 --> 00:38:03.780
I think I want to bring this music back to life.
00:38:04.099 --> 00:38:06.139
I can connect with Dewan. Because I'll tell you,
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.079
I hear so many people say, I just need to get
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.300
into the studio with Dewan. I just need to hook
00:38:10.300 --> 00:38:13.119
up with Dewan. They know that when they get with
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.619
you, you're a musical genius. And that, I mean,
00:38:16.059 --> 00:38:18.059
I can even speak for my husband whenever he...
00:38:18.110 --> 00:38:21.150
drove over to your studio and when he came home,
00:38:21.150 --> 00:38:23.489
he was singing and whistling because he came
00:38:23.489 --> 00:38:26.090
back with some amazing music as a trombone player.
00:38:26.329 --> 00:38:29.110
My husband, Jay Scott Lee, will be a trombone
00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:31.929
player with the jazz band at the event Saturday.
00:38:32.010 --> 00:38:35.309
I got to do a plug for him. But he spent some
00:38:35.309 --> 00:38:38.090
time with you in your studio and people come
00:38:38.090 --> 00:38:40.809
out of there with the magic that you do to it
00:38:40.809 --> 00:38:43.050
to bring it to life more than they could have
00:38:43.050 --> 00:38:46.550
ever expected. So you're going to be an amazing
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:49.679
consultant, you know, especially in this music
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.679
space, because you bring a whole lifetime of
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.719
experience and skills that you can help people
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.480
become stronger in it, that they can become more
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.199
independent, and they can go to the next level,
00:39:02.500 --> 00:39:05.099
right? It's people's life, you know, things people
00:39:05.099 --> 00:39:08.179
have passion about, things people take seriously.
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:11.400
I don't think anyone could take it more seriously
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:13.619
than you do, because that's who you are. When
00:39:13.619 --> 00:39:16.320
I think of DeWine, I think of music, and I think
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.860
of What do you have? Because you have this genius
00:39:18.860 --> 00:39:21.320
mind and you think I can do this with it or that
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.679
with it. And I'm not even talking about how great
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:26.039
you play the keys. People don't know how well
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.519
you can play the keyboard, piano. I mean, anything.
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.420
I mean, you have the skills and I already mentioned
00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:35.420
the drums. It's just insane what a genius you
00:39:35.420 --> 00:39:38.190
are when it comes to music. So. I want to say
00:39:38.190 --> 00:39:41.130
personally that I'm so excited to have you as
00:39:41.130 --> 00:39:44.190
part of the team for the AI Career Pivot Group,
00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:46.969
that you can bring your expertise. And like I
00:39:46.969 --> 00:39:49.369
say, you got the magic. It's all about the magic
00:39:49.369 --> 00:39:53.769
of how you can take a whole, just a whole generation,
00:39:53.869 --> 00:39:56.369
I believe, into people who have been sitting
00:39:56.369 --> 00:39:58.989
stalled and have been frustrated and haven't
00:39:58.989 --> 00:40:01.030
been able to move forward, that you have the
00:40:01.030 --> 00:40:03.909
magic to help them get that music moving to the
00:40:03.909 --> 00:40:05.949
next level. So they need to connect with you.
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.199
to come to the event because just a little teaser,
00:40:09.659 --> 00:40:11.920
Duann's going to have some music flowing during
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:14.500
his presentation. He's going to show you real
00:40:14.500 --> 00:40:17.500
time the magic. So people need to come to this
00:40:17.500 --> 00:40:22.320
event on Saturday just to see this genius in
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.739
action. So I'm excited, Duann. I'm excited. Y
00:40:25.739 --> 00:40:28.119
'all got to get there. Y 'all have to get there.
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.739
There's literally a world of things that can
00:40:31.739 --> 00:40:35.699
be shown. Absolutely. due to the nature of the
00:40:35.699 --> 00:40:38.659
connection of people that are within this group.
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:43.300
It's totally, totally what was needed. Connecting
00:40:43.300 --> 00:40:47.300
with people is what I've always pushed for people
00:40:47.300 --> 00:40:50.840
to do that are in or that follow the Not Just
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:55.719
Music podcast community. Gaining things that
00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:00.039
are helping the next generation is very important.
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:05.619
And grasping a hold to it and the manner of the
00:41:05.619 --> 00:41:09.860
way this group is doing it was spot on point.
00:41:10.820 --> 00:41:14.500
So I want to thank Auntie for always pulling
00:41:14.500 --> 00:41:18.920
me in to the stuff that always grows, is always
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:22.539
moving and something that's always big. And I
00:41:22.539 --> 00:41:25.420
really, really appreciate it. Courtney, one more
00:41:25.420 --> 00:41:28.340
thing before you go. I always like for people
00:41:28.340 --> 00:41:33.719
to give a short pivot. story, but at the same
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:37.880
time, something motivational. Because I really
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.820
appreciate your grandness to something that's
00:41:42.820 --> 00:41:46.119
new that a lot of people don't get to hear it
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.900
in a personalized way. They just, and I like
00:41:48.900 --> 00:41:52.920
I asked, I told, asked on can people get kind
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.840
of weary. You know, you, you say AI kind of like,
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.280
I don't know about AI, you know, but in a sense
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.829
of to hear people that's taking it in, in a positive
00:42:02.829 --> 00:42:05.110
way. And it's changing the way that their workflow
00:42:05.110 --> 00:42:07.309
changing. I mean, there's a lot of things that
00:42:07.309 --> 00:42:11.030
it can change, but in a sense of what's your
00:42:11.030 --> 00:42:14.170
inspiration that you could give the people in
00:42:14.170 --> 00:42:16.050
the end of all of this more than it could be
00:42:16.050 --> 00:42:18.429
bigger than AI. It's not just about AI. It's
00:42:18.429 --> 00:42:22.869
about the person as well. So that is a great
00:42:22.869 --> 00:42:27.159
question. And something my personal story and
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:31.920
why I feel I am among those that our team is
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.139
looking to serve is because when I decided to
00:42:36.139 --> 00:42:40.019
sit back and ask my bestie, my AI chat, you know,
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:46.199
how could I possibly take the skills that I've
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:52.670
acquired over 10 plus? decades of corporate social
00:42:52.670 --> 00:42:56.190
services, working with human beings and children,
00:42:56.929 --> 00:43:00.150
adults and children. How can I transfer that
00:43:00.150 --> 00:43:04.010
those skills into how I want to approach pet
00:43:04.010 --> 00:43:09.309
care? And so completely for anyone out there
00:43:09.309 --> 00:43:11.670
who is at a place where you're looking to pivot
00:43:11.670 --> 00:43:15.210
and your heart is telling you to completely go
00:43:15.210 --> 00:43:18.599
in. a completely opposite direction than anything
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:22.800
you've ever tried. I am the person, it's you
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.139
and I, we're twins, okay? When I say that there
00:43:26.139 --> 00:43:28.960
is nothing, like I like to say, not even apples
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.400
and oranges, but apples and chocolate. Social
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.219
work, boutique pet care. They just, you know,
00:43:35.340 --> 00:43:38.559
and so for me, asking the question, starting
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.920
with how is this, what skills do I possibly have
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.699
working with children and families that can translate
00:43:44.699 --> 00:43:49.000
into pet care? And, you know, my bestie said,
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.940
okay, Courtney, same framework, different species.
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.400
So let's talk about it. And what it gave me was
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:00.699
the same assessments, behavior assessments that
00:44:00.699 --> 00:44:03.900
I would do, case plans that I would work on with
00:44:03.900 --> 00:44:07.599
the parents, sitting with my families and talking
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:10.260
my parents through the importance of being present
00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:12.719
in your child's classroom, learning what the
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.960
teacher is working on with your child, any individualized
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.579
support that the classroom is providing your
00:44:19.579 --> 00:44:22.599
child, and bringing that into the home as well,
00:44:22.820 --> 00:44:25.909
right? All of that. contributes to a child's
00:44:25.909 --> 00:44:28.670
positive development and experience. All of those
00:44:28.670 --> 00:44:32.070
same things I do in pet care. And so once it
00:44:32.070 --> 00:44:34.369
started giving me all of this, okay, Courtney,
00:44:34.670 --> 00:44:36.949
you love people, you love working with parents,
00:44:37.090 --> 00:44:40.570
you love working with kids, you can do kids in
00:44:40.570 --> 00:44:43.570
canine. Like it started giving me all kinds of
00:44:43.570 --> 00:44:47.190
things that I want to educate my pet parents
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on. Learning about dog, I can go on and on, so
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I'll just make this brief, but learning about
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dog behavior and dog psychology is something
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that a lot of people don't think much about.
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You don't give dogs that much credit to really
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take the time to learn what their experience
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is in a human world. Well, one of the things
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that's important to me is helping pet parents
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and families become their dog's number one advocate.
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I did that for my human families. You know, it's
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just crazy how things just in pet care, it just
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came together. And I would not have been able
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to make that connection without my knowledge
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base, but also AI pointing out, did you know
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you're already doing this? Did you realize you're
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already doing that? Why don't you just mesh it,
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you know, put it together and turn it into monetize
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it. You know, it's, that's my story. I really
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just want, anyone listening to the sound of my
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voice, definitely come see me at the conference
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and we can talk one -on -one. I have more gold
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for you, but if this is the last time you're
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going to hear anything about AI, because you
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may not quite be ready yet, I would definitely
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just encourage you to take some time, find a
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tool you're comfortable with, just start building
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a relationship with it, building up that comfort
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level, and then Heaven forbid you should have
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a couple of goals or dreams that you want to
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share in and let it just give you gold. Mm hmm.
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All right, everybody, we appreciate y 'all for
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stopping by as always. Not just music podcast
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family. I love y 'all. Remember always if you
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need help. We pushed and introduced so much.
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You've heard the word help. Yes. If you need
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some help, remember always remember to ask for
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help. Don't be scared to ask for help. Right.
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Learn from it. Don't ever abuse the hill. Always
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learn from it, absorb it, and move on, grow from
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that. Autism community, disabilities community,
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I love y 'all. Remember to keep y 'all lifted.
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And at the end, remember to keep God first, y
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'all. Remember that part, all right? Until next
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time, Not Just Music Podcast, I love y 'all,
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peace.



