The Power of Music Collaborations

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Not just music podcast in the building again

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Another opportunity to talk about some great

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things. It's been going on. It's been happening

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For years to come and there's happening history.

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How's everything this morning? Oh What's up,

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bro? Yeah early morning shoot man, you know Lesson,

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how do you favorite? Everything's good. How you

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doing Brody? excellent, so I was been speaking

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on music production for about three good episodes

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here. Hindsight, I had started speaking on things

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to do to consider history when it comes to being

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creative, especially the nature of what it takes.

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to be great at something. And I think this leads

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back to, especially when it comes to the culture,

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blacks, black history musicians, musicians that

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are highly favored in the black history world.

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I pointed out Motown, highly respectable to them

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because of something that a lot of Black people

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have totally disbanded, right? The biggest thing

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is the togetherness. If you look at some of the

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biggest hits of the world, and especially speaking

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back to early days, and especially when it comes

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to writers, musicians, Maybe not even just the

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writers in a position not even the writers that

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are in a position is like now speaking like in

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You know in Motown era, you know, you had to

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be a special individual to be in the room And

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it's only imaginable like now there's not a It's

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not a quote -unquote code to being good or whether

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it's bad or not We spoke on that too. You know,

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what makes a hit? You know, what's good? What's

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bad? What elements of a song makes it a hit?

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What makes it, you know? Now, I'm gonna expand

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a little bit on both of those topics. I'm gonna

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put them together in a way. And this is what

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I was saying. Building a rapport now with your

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music is highly important. Notice. I'm gonna

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ask you too. I'm gonna ask you this first. Have

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you ever noticed that most hit songs Don't have

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just one person on credits in my right around

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You absolutely right Why do you feel especially

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the older songs? Yeah, and I'm a point to these

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ones in the new era to now the ones that's from

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the past first, right? Hmm. Do you do you notice

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the? How everything was structured Yes, what

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I say, that's what I say. What do you feel the

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structure? And also not just putting the work

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in they did it together You know I'm saying it

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wasn't like it wasn't It wasn't a big person

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or it wasn't like a little person. It was like

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all people who were on the records, you know.

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Collaborate. It was a, there we go. There we

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go. Now let's get to the collaboration part here.

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Now that's the reason why I want to talk about

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collaboration. Just as in the nature of blacks

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in history, I think they were more so paying

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attention to doing things together for the art

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and for the culture and for the sake of who we

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are, who we were as black folks, right? Just

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like any Anything that we've talked about when

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it comes to history, you know, it was you know

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Yeah, Malcolm X. Yeah, you had Malcolm X But

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then you had a cruel folk behind Malcolm X or

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you had Martin Luther King You had Martin Luther

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King, but you had a cruel folk Behind Martin

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Luther King now Do you think that? the way history.

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Somebody even wrote Martin Luther King, Martin

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Luther King write his I have a dream speech.

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Everybody, you know, collaboration, you know,

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collaboration, like everybody has that every

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true good individual and powerful individual

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had that help, all that collaborative effort

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we'll be talking about. But yeah, I'm sorry.

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No, no, no, no. So there's a reason for the collaborators.

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collaboratives to come together. The bigger the

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collaborative, the better the end and product.

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Now, don't get me wrong. Sometimes there can

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be a lot of names on a list. But as long as these

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names on their list are worthy, you know, and

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working actually contribute. Yeah. And it's a

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collaborative effort where everybody is in on

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it versus it being just one of those is one person

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did this one person did this one person did that

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one person did it. It's rare you're going to

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see something like that. Now, can I ask you something

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though on that? Yeah. How do you feel? How do

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you feel about because, you know, you've had

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artists put like. Like say they might put their

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homeboy on a credit so they can get paid that's

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locked up So when the song start getting money

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That that person is locked up art. They might

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put their child's name Down as a credit. How

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do you feel about that? Like you know situations

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like like they they didn't contribute to it,

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but There since they're associated with this

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person They looking out for them. They want to

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put them down as a credit, but they really didn't

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do nothing for the album or the single or whatever

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it is. It comes down to inheritance. OK. Insane

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thing is property. OK. It's your property. If

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you when you choose to if just like you, if you

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haven't put a clause in place to where or put

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put a plan in place to where when you die. Your

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music can keep going on keep having life Keep

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having keep bringing in money and things of that

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nature See that's important. You have to you

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have to realize these things when you are Becoming

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a creative, you know, who's gonna take this over?

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After a certain amount of time, you know, I mean

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it could be it could be yeah your homeboy Right,

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you say somebody's in prison, right or in jail,

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you know They put their name on it in hindsight

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of gaining credibility in the future. So, you

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know, just like with DJ Khaled, DJ Khaled put

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a side name on the whole, I can't remember which

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album it was, two albums back, one album back,

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something like that. Aside was the exact producer

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on every single record. And it's just the simplicity

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of You know, people might think that, oh man,

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that was a wild idea, but to me it was a great

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idea. I mean, Asai may never touch music in his

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life in a sense, right? But he has that credibility

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from that album that Khaled put out and had his

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name on. So if in anything he does moving forward,

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he has that on his resume, right? So for me,

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just like with him, Khalid Khalid thinks like

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a true Motown You know Idol and I'm being honest

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in the sense of saying Khalid only puts records

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together that are collaborative is nothing that's

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gonna be just DJ Cal ever ever ever ever ever

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ever and honestly people didn't like it, but

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to me it was really a genius structured situation

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because you know That's what it takes to make

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a hit. I'm understanding of that. Now, for those

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that don't think that way now, this is the reason

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why I'm bringing it up. Especially, I wanted

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to bring a situation to why we talking about

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this stuff versus just saying, leaving a why

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question open. So, who are we now to feel like

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this is going to happen on its own, right? And

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every situation of something that I do that's

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meaningful, that's still going, that has value,

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there's more than one person connected to it.

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More than one person. Don't matter how I looked

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at it, it may feel like, man, I'm by myself on

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it. No, there's never a situation where something

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that you're working with or something that you're

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working into Doesn't have structure if you if

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it didn't have structure you wouldn't be probably

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a part of it, right? So you have to think about

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this. I'm gonna ask a question one more question.

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So if sake of work, right like just like you

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you are in a creative, you know lane, that's

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what you do besides going to work besides being

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other things Now do you feel? Now because you

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brought it up in the nature of saying, you know,

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here's this writers We brought up this the situation

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of writers a lot. Um, yeah who who is credible?

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Who's not credible? MC, you know ghostwriter

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type situation. We talked about a lot of it now

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The hardest parts of those values nowadays are

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You know we Considerably, if we could shake the

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selfishness of the music game, right? Now, do

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you feel, just like with Motown, Motown wasn't

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selfish, right? And Berry Gordy was not selfish

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in any way. This man was bringing in people as

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much as he could, right? And at one point, everybody

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saw the value in it. He had all the hits, he

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had everything going there, right? But just think

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about if he tried to do it by himself, right?

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Do you think they would have caused? Impossible

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are he if they did have great quality the quantity

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probably wouldn't be up there He wouldn't be

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able to produce as much great hits as he did.

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So you gonna lose something You know, you might

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lose that quality You know I'm saying doing it

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by yourself. Are you you might spend years and

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years or months on one song when you could have

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had 10 20 of these things In a month like how

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he doing like it was a machine. You know I'm

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saying so I Think that's what's needed today's

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time because we complain about quality Okay,

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what's the way to fix quality? Okay, get help

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Collaborate, you know I'm saying like we talk

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about quantity you want to get it out at a production

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rate a fast production To keep up with this world.

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We live in what do you need? a team. No one man

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can run an operation like this by themselves.

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Like you just said, even work. When you go to

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work, when I go to nine to five, it's assembly

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line. Everybody has to do their job. I do my

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part. This person next do their part when they

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get the part or whatever they get. If I'm running

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back and forth, guess what? Production is going

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to stop. It's going to be slower than if I could

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have just stayed in my position and did me. and

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put this with an artist, if you got to be more

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than an artist, songwriter, this and that, producer,

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you know, you're not going to get as much done.

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You know what I'm saying? And I guarantee you,

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I hate to compare these two, but Michael had

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a lot of his. Michael had a lot of music compared

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to Prince. And Prince played every instrument.

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Prince did a lot of stuff, but Michael had that

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machine behind him. He just went in there and

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was a singer, a performer, singer, you know.

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Prince was doing all this other stuff in respect

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to Prince, but that slowed him down, I think,

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on the music quantity that he could have put

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out up there with Michael. You know what I'm

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saying? So it's a win -lose thing, man, whatever

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route you choose, you know? Question answered,

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man. That's the, this is, I love when a... my

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idea of something can get a question and answer

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it. And we did that all in 15 minutes. Most times,

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most times when you look, as Q just said, there's

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this strong tower of musicians, writers, mix

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engineers, recording engineers, mastering engineers,

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A &Rs, who are waiting for you literally just

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sit they just waiting and Honesty for it is just

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remember this to remember the person Who gets

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the most credit for a song in real life is the

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person who is singing that song who is rapping

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that song? Okay, they will get the most credit

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for it in the end. I don't care how we wanna

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Turn it around. People try to turn it around

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so many times. Just remember, the person who

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is the biggest on a record is the person who

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is singing or rapping or talking the spoken word.

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And you got to think about the time we in the

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time we in, bro, the way music is. Nobody really

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cares about credits. All we really care about

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is is this song hot or not right now? That like

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that's all we really care about right now. You

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know what I'm saying? I don't care who wrote

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it. I don't care who produced it. I don't care

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who like like we want to know who's singing and

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rapping. Yeah, we want to know them. So like

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you just said, you're going to get the credit.

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The artist don't trip, even if you ain't write

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the song. But my mindset has changed a lot on

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that, too, because nowadays it's like, are we

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just going to sit here and be stubborn and not

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want to adjust back to the the how it really

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was supposed to work. Like you say, Motown, how

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they did it. Are we going to just ignore the

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history and see what worked and what don't work?

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You know what I'm saying? So we got to get out

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of our heads and include me. You know what I'm

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saying? And go back to that formula. You know

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what I'm saying? If we want to make music, music

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again or I want to be a pivotal role in this.

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You know what I'm saying? So now pieces, pieces.

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to getting to the greatness is what we're speaking

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of. That's what we're talking about, y 'all.

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If you haven't witnessed or experienced a studio

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situation where a bunch of collaboratives come

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in a room, that's something I want y 'all to,

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at least one of your albums, one of your records,

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get all the collaboratives in one room and see

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what you come up with. I guarantee you it will,

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it'll turn out faster. One, because it's always

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crazy. I mean, I've done it a bunch of times,

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be in a room. This is five, six, seven, eight

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people, nine, 10 people in a room. And you start

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a musical vibe. Everybody's minds open. Everybody

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is open. So you got 10 brains open to ideas.

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Five brains open to an idea. You know, it could

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be two words. You could have said it wrong. It

00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.039
could have been a whole bar that you say it wrong.

00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:16.960
You could have said a line wrong. You could have

00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:19.019
made, you could have added more expression here.

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All these ideas in one room at one time is a

00:17:22.539 --> 00:17:25.440
beautiful substance. This is another thing. I've

00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:28.819
been personally reaching out to people, bands.

00:17:30.289 --> 00:17:34.089
You know a lot of people so this is the thing

00:17:34.089 --> 00:17:37.970
if y 'all watching this Let's work together,

00:17:38.430 --> 00:17:40.930
you know, it's artists out here actually reaching

00:17:40.930 --> 00:17:43.089
out to y 'all man. Like do I say they waiting

00:17:43.089 --> 00:17:46.869
on us? So what I'm saying is let's stop being

00:17:46.869 --> 00:17:52.369
so How can I put it let's stop being so judgmental

00:17:52.369 --> 00:17:57.289
about a personal or music and let's just get

00:17:57.289 --> 00:18:01.309
in try to understand a vision and get in there

00:18:01.309 --> 00:18:03.609
and create. You know what I'm saying? You never

00:18:03.609 --> 00:18:06.109
know what a person can offer until you hear them

00:18:06.109 --> 00:18:08.990
out and you give them a chance. But a lot of

00:18:08.990 --> 00:18:12.009
this also is on all of us. It ain't just the

00:18:12.009 --> 00:18:15.329
artists. It's the, like you say, that drummer

00:18:15.329 --> 00:18:20.589
or that pianoist, that, you know, the songwriter.

00:18:21.029 --> 00:18:23.509
Like, we have to get out of our heads that we're

00:18:23.509 --> 00:18:27.549
better and we got it going on. Like, Let's let's

00:18:27.549 --> 00:18:30.549
be humble and our next hit might come from the

00:18:30.549 --> 00:18:34.009
exact same people that we see less worthy know

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I'm saying so I'm trying to get into the collaboration

00:18:38.430 --> 00:18:41.890
stage, you know I'm saying so, you know, like

00:18:41.890 --> 00:18:44.950
I say Let's stop judging and let's just work

00:18:44.950 --> 00:18:48.309
man. You know, I'm saying, you know All my people

00:18:48.309 --> 00:18:51.650
man, like if you a church in the band don't look

00:18:51.650 --> 00:18:54.450
at me crazy cuz I might do outside of the church

00:18:54.450 --> 00:18:57.609
music or something like Give me a chance, you

00:18:57.609 --> 00:19:00.650
know, like music don't define the character I

00:19:00.650 --> 00:19:04.490
am, who I am as a person, my work ethic. So I

00:19:04.490 --> 00:19:06.690
want to throw that in there too, man. It's a

00:19:06.690 --> 00:19:10.609
lot of that a lot of gatekeeping going on. Mm

00:19:10.609 --> 00:19:17.150
hmm. Yeah. So for, you know, a time that's gone

00:19:17.150 --> 00:19:20.170
or for the time that's gone, you know, if you

00:19:20.170 --> 00:19:22.349
if you're one of those people that still just,

00:19:22.349 --> 00:19:27.720
you know, you 50 records in. I did all these

00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:30.819
50 records by myself, bro. I set it to house.

00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:34.359
I recorded every last one of them on my laptop,

00:19:34.380 --> 00:19:41.180
bro. I put them out to the world and none of

00:19:41.180 --> 00:19:44.380
them were hits, bro. None of them were hits.

00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.380
Maybe, it may be just because you didn't have

00:19:49.380 --> 00:19:53.170
a few other people in that room. And this is

00:19:53.170 --> 00:19:54.569
another thing that comes along with those 10

00:19:54.569 --> 00:19:56.410
people or those five people those three people

00:19:56.410 --> 00:19:59.069
those four people When it's four people pushing

00:19:59.069 --> 00:20:01.049
a record when it's five people pushing a record

00:20:01.049 --> 00:20:02.809
when it's ten people pushing a record is much

00:20:02.809 --> 00:20:04.690
bigger and grander than that one person that's

00:20:04.690 --> 00:20:08.789
pushing a record Yes, okay. Yes is much grander.

00:20:08.789 --> 00:20:12.450
It's a grand situation When two people or three

00:20:12.450 --> 00:20:15.230
or five will have me I say then once those ten

00:20:15.230 --> 00:20:18.230
people get it those ten passing on and you got

00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:20.609
20 then you got 20 folk then you got 40 then

00:20:20.609 --> 00:20:24.319
you got 40 folk then you got 80 I seen the backstory.

00:20:24.539 --> 00:20:26.599
I seen the back. I know the backstory. You're

00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:29.779
pushing your own work, man. I mean, yeah, I seen

00:20:29.779 --> 00:20:32.960
the back end, but boy, I'm telling you, take

00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.099
a lot out of you just doing it yourself, pushing

00:20:35.099 --> 00:20:39.319
it yourself as an artist, man. Like you say,

00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:42.319
that is absolutely right, man. Having more hands

00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:47.460
pushing it is a blessing because damn, man, like

00:20:47.460 --> 00:20:50.990
just to get to that one number you vision. There's

00:20:50.990 --> 00:20:53.390
a lot, you know a lot of work like people artists

00:20:53.390 --> 00:20:55.190
don't think of it, you know, they don't think

00:20:55.190 --> 00:20:58.269
after I record this record What am I going to

00:20:58.269 --> 00:21:01.230
do to make this now make this song big? You know

00:21:01.230 --> 00:21:06.289
I'm saying So by this movie or whatever, you

00:21:06.289 --> 00:21:09.630
know, it's a lot of work man And now it's a it's

00:21:09.630 --> 00:21:12.849
enough. It's enough of this This is this one.

00:21:12.849 --> 00:21:15.009
We close that after this. Yeah. Yeah, so it's

00:21:15.009 --> 00:21:20.700
enough of it. It's enough of it that Unexcused

00:21:20.700 --> 00:21:24.619
mentality that you have or we've had you know

00:21:24.619 --> 00:21:27.220
this is something that Like literally y 'all

00:21:27.220 --> 00:21:29.339
should really think about it. You know don't

00:21:29.339 --> 00:21:32.160
think about it in the sense of you know you're

00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:36.220
giving away Something it's not it if you're the

00:21:36.220 --> 00:21:38.059
one that's on the record that's saying if you

00:21:38.059 --> 00:21:41.319
want is rapping if this your voice Remember get

00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:44.039
everything that you can to make that voice or

00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:46.839
your voice be the best that it can be meaning

00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:49.859
the surrounding body of music that comes with

00:21:49.859 --> 00:21:52.740
it, the instrumental or whatever it is. Especially

00:21:52.740 --> 00:21:55.380
if you put a lot of work in. I want to say that

00:21:55.380 --> 00:21:58.940
you deserve, you owe yourself a hit. Like, this

00:21:58.940 --> 00:22:01.240
is the people that's been in the game and doing

00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.099
it. Don't feel, you've been doing it yourself

00:22:04.099 --> 00:22:07.460
this whole time. Don't think because somebody

00:22:07.460 --> 00:22:10.960
writes one song for you that diminishes, oh,

00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:14.059
I'm a songwriter. No, your whole catalog before

00:22:14.059 --> 00:22:16.640
that you wrote everything. Now I'm and I'm speaking

00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:19.460
about me. This is a circumstance. I mean, like

00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:21.940
I like I'll take somebody to write a song for

00:22:21.940 --> 00:22:24.740
me now because I know everything I've done prior

00:22:24.740 --> 00:22:29.759
to this next project. I wrote it. So it's no

00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:33.599
my my abilities as a writer has never been questioned.

00:22:34.059 --> 00:22:37.359
You know, to write my own movie like that's never

00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:41.170
been questioned. So I owe myself a hit hit. And

00:22:41.170 --> 00:22:42.589
you know what I'm saying? And that's what I'm

00:22:42.589 --> 00:22:44.289
saying. Anybody that's been doing this, man,

00:22:44.390 --> 00:22:47.269
by they self, doing this, been in the game, really

00:22:47.269 --> 00:22:49.289
deserve it. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking

00:22:49.289 --> 00:22:51.170
to y 'all. Y 'all deserve it, man. You know what

00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:53.109
I'm saying? So don't look at it like that. Like

00:22:53.109 --> 00:22:55.450
you giving up something, like Dwayne said. But

00:22:55.450 --> 00:22:57.329
OK, that's it. That's on my mind. Oh, you fine?

00:22:57.829 --> 00:23:02.910
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00:23:02.910 --> 00:23:07.220
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This is a big help. Since the top of the year,

00:24:11.809 --> 00:24:16.430
that's what I've tried to... I always have that

00:24:16.430 --> 00:24:22.170
as my final instruction of these episodes. There's

00:24:22.170 --> 00:24:26.190
no need to waste valuable years, especially while

00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:28.730
you're young, and especially those that are like

00:24:28.730 --> 00:24:33.450
19, 20, 21 age frame, if a little bit less than

00:24:33.450 --> 00:24:37.049
that. If it's a parent that's out here, you got

00:24:37.049 --> 00:24:40.170
a child, they have value in, you think they have

00:24:40.170 --> 00:24:44.049
value in music, like find them a team. Find them

00:24:44.049 --> 00:24:47.470
somebody that is highly structured in the music

00:24:47.470 --> 00:24:50.670
situation, you know the music game and put them

00:24:50.670 --> 00:24:53.910
around her put them around him and Let him let

00:24:53.910 --> 00:24:55.809
him work. Let him cook up some stuff. See what

00:24:55.809 --> 00:24:59.269
happens comes from it But that's the still just

00:24:59.269 --> 00:25:01.289
coming down to the point where you ask for help.

00:25:01.410 --> 00:25:02.809
There's plenty of people out here The internet

00:25:02.809 --> 00:25:05.269
is big it's too many producers too many. It's

00:25:05.269 --> 00:25:07.509
too many people on his in his audio world that

00:25:07.509 --> 00:25:09.599
leads into music That you can get your hands

00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:11.500
on and there's sometimes it's just right up on

00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:12.960
and you know right up under your nose in your

00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:16.440
city It's in your city and if it's not in your

00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.420
city go find the city It's too many. There's

00:25:19.420 --> 00:25:22.279
too many opportunities that could be Left on

00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:23.700
the table just because you're trying to save

00:25:23.700 --> 00:25:25.339
a dollar. Don't save a dollar when it comes trying

00:25:25.339 --> 00:25:29.559
to get a hit Say that again Don't consider the

00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.579
dollar. Don't save a dollar When it comes to

00:25:32.579 --> 00:25:35.660
making a hit don't look at it that way a hit

00:25:35.660 --> 00:25:39.089
Music is already at a low So when you're when

00:25:39.089 --> 00:25:41.450
you're speaking of a hit record, most days, you

00:25:41.450 --> 00:25:43.490
know, we talk about hit records. I mean, these

00:25:43.490 --> 00:25:45.269
records may not make a lot of money across the

00:25:45.269 --> 00:25:47.869
board for everybody to like be like super rich

00:25:47.869 --> 00:25:51.150
off of royalty. Can I get you can I can I end

00:25:51.150 --> 00:25:53.829
it like this? Can you give us a description of

00:25:53.829 --> 00:25:59.309
what you how important a record is to where get

00:25:59.309 --> 00:26:03.730
into that person mind that is is is wanting to

00:26:03.730 --> 00:26:06.829
do this and wants that big record. But money,

00:26:06.970 --> 00:26:10.329
they're thinking money. And they're unsure themselves

00:26:10.329 --> 00:26:13.650
about it in certain ways. Try to get in their

00:26:13.650 --> 00:26:17.130
head to why is so important. A record is so important,

00:26:17.230 --> 00:26:20.069
why music is so important and why it should be

00:26:20.069 --> 00:26:22.769
taken important. It's like you're going to get

00:26:22.769 --> 00:26:25.150
something to eat. What what? Give them that picture.

00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:27.190
Give us that picture. I think it's really the

00:26:27.190 --> 00:26:30.210
biggest thing is speaking on the things that

00:26:30.210 --> 00:26:32.269
we just spoke on for the past, at least these

00:26:32.269 --> 00:26:35.930
last three episodes. All those pieces point to

00:26:35.930 --> 00:26:40.950
one of the biggest problems Again is asking for

00:26:40.950 --> 00:26:47.809
the hill you know financially and Help can go

00:26:47.809 --> 00:26:51.710
a long way if you do it or if you utilize it

00:26:51.710 --> 00:26:55.029
the correct way, right? um don't utilize your

00:26:55.029 --> 00:27:02.170
money in your mind is a Keep safe There's a difference

00:27:02.170 --> 00:27:07.519
from saving money and then hoarding money And

00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:09.259
then there is another situation where you're

00:27:09.259 --> 00:27:12.039
being stingy with the money. Now - But I'm saying,

00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.579
explain to them why they should spend that last

00:27:14.579 --> 00:27:19.380
- I wanna point out all the people that's in

00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:21.339
that line. Cause there's certain people who aren't

00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:23.740
stingy, but you know, they have the money and

00:27:23.740 --> 00:27:29.039
they just hoarding it. And so if it's a thing

00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:32.900
of you have a hoarding mentality, you gotta ask

00:27:32.900 --> 00:27:36.450
for help. That's one. If you hoard, Hoarding

00:27:36.450 --> 00:27:40.069
is an addiction. It's a situation that needs

00:27:40.069 --> 00:27:43.529
help. And if you hoard money, there's a situation

00:27:43.529 --> 00:27:47.430
you'll never actually get to experience what

00:27:47.430 --> 00:27:51.269
it can do for you. That's for those who hoard

00:27:51.269 --> 00:27:56.109
the money. So if you don't have money, here's

00:27:56.109 --> 00:28:00.410
the point why I say you ask for help. Not even

00:28:00.410 --> 00:28:03.390
just ask for help. Become part of a team that's

00:28:03.390 --> 00:28:06.240
looking for. Because there's team mentality people

00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.440
who are looking for might be looking for a piano

00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:10.500
player, might be looking for a rapper, might

00:28:10.500 --> 00:28:12.539
be looking for a singer, might be looking for

00:28:12.539 --> 00:28:15.700
Oregon player, might be looking for a trumpet

00:28:15.700 --> 00:28:18.319
player. I mean, random stuff, string instruments.

00:28:19.619 --> 00:28:22.420
Putting the pieces together to get the bigger

00:28:22.420 --> 00:28:25.740
picture is the situation. And that's for those

00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:28.460
that are, you know, the money situation just

00:28:28.460 --> 00:28:30.519
ain't there right now. But you had a mentality.

00:28:30.809 --> 00:28:32.630
because see sometimes you can you can have the

00:28:32.630 --> 00:28:34.970
mentality for the music but you ain't got the

00:28:34.970 --> 00:28:37.470
value in the music i mean the money or something

00:28:37.470 --> 00:28:40.450
to the nature that you can start to build your

00:28:40.450 --> 00:28:43.549
own you know catalog with you know in this that

00:28:43.549 --> 00:28:47.069
type of situation but if you don't have the money

00:28:47.069 --> 00:28:49.490
it's hard to do that that's the part that's different

00:28:49.490 --> 00:28:53.250
that's the hoarding and those who don't have

00:28:53.250 --> 00:28:55.630
that's that's it's two different situations right

00:28:55.630 --> 00:28:58.549
there but both still need to ask for help Because

00:28:58.549 --> 00:29:00.529
you can't do much without money. You can't do

00:29:00.529 --> 00:29:02.829
much if you have a money You don't know it going

00:29:02.829 --> 00:29:05.269
on to that money and I put now into something

00:29:05.269 --> 00:29:06.990
now. Let me speak of the person. What's the reward?

00:29:07.089 --> 00:29:09.470
What's the reward when you sacrifice? Okay now

00:29:09.470 --> 00:29:12.930
So you're saving you're saving your your your

00:29:12.930 --> 00:29:15.410
time your energy your money those that do save

00:29:15.410 --> 00:29:19.170
money, you know There's that there's that part

00:29:19.170 --> 00:29:21.890
of you that don't wanna Just like okay, man.

00:29:21.890 --> 00:29:24.509
I've been working hard for this, you know, I've

00:29:24.509 --> 00:29:26.380
been working super hard for this I don't want

00:29:26.380 --> 00:29:29.359
to just spend it on just anything, right? Now,

00:29:30.460 --> 00:29:31.900
hear what I just said. There's a difference.

00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:33.980
There's a subtle difference, even from the person

00:29:33.980 --> 00:29:36.799
who is working hard, who has the money, where

00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.539
it's there, you're saving it, but you don't have

00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:42.079
the same mentality as that person who doesn't

00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.700
have the money. You know, the person who don't

00:29:44.700 --> 00:29:46.160
have the money, they got the mentality, got the

00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.000
drive, they got the work ethic, they ready to

00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.519
go. But the situation is sometimes being in that

00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:54.559
position where you have it and you're saving

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.079
it. You sometimes second guess it because of

00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.579
due to what it took you to get it So let me say

00:30:00.579 --> 00:30:02.140
this this is one thing you were talking about

00:30:02.140 --> 00:30:05.079
too. The biggest thing is remember music making

00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:09.519
music is a sacrifice It's a sacrifice that a

00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:13.539
lot of people aren't Committed to make like you

00:30:13.539 --> 00:30:15.799
just asked and this is the point this out and

00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:17.599
we talked about this the last episode I put it

00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:21.099
out yet, but it's out should be out now You have

00:30:21.099 --> 00:30:23.220
to realize that if they're driving that work

00:30:23.220 --> 00:30:27.640
ethic ain't there Look if the work ethic is oh,

00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:29.599
I got to go to do my job in the morning Oh, I

00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.259
got to go to my job tonight. I got to work through

00:30:31.259 --> 00:30:35.599
the night and That's the only thing that drives

00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.240
you that's what you're going to do But if it's

00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:43.839
the music the music situation I've seen the brokeest

00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:49.559
person Be the most work Had the biggest work

00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.019
ethic you've ever seen you know I'm saying the

00:30:53.019 --> 00:30:57.450
biggest and it's hard to get that person to realize

00:30:57.450 --> 00:31:01.210
sometimes that it is it's a bigger picture than

00:31:01.210 --> 00:31:03.769
just saying that okay okay well what if i had

00:31:03.769 --> 00:31:06.670
a couple dollars in my pocket for it the what

00:31:06.670 --> 00:31:08.289
if i have a couple dollars in my pocket for it

00:31:08.289 --> 00:31:11.650
may come via the music situation but it may not

00:31:11.650 --> 00:31:14.410
come as a royalty it may come as a as a as a

00:31:14.410 --> 00:31:16.950
buy -in we look we want to give you a certain

00:31:16.950 --> 00:31:20.220
amount of dollars just to do your part Now this

00:31:20.220 --> 00:31:22.339
is this is where you start piecing everything

00:31:22.339 --> 00:31:24.740
together because it could be just we need you

00:31:24.740 --> 00:31:29.619
just the right and if you're broke and You need

00:31:29.619 --> 00:31:33.839
some money in your pocket Don't be don't be a

00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:36.900
hard -headed individual and pass up on an opportunity

00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:40.380
That could could skyrocket you to the next level

00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:43.740
with this this music situation you in the room

00:31:43.740 --> 00:31:46.119
think about it you in the room now with people

00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:49.009
who are Who's rolling? Who's striving to do that?

00:31:49.670 --> 00:31:51.470
They ain't think about money. They just sitting

00:31:51.470 --> 00:31:52.970
there thinking, man, let's make hits. Let's make

00:31:52.970 --> 00:31:54.269
music. Let's make music. Let's crank them out.

00:31:54.349 --> 00:31:56.730
Let's crank them out. Let's crank them out. That's

00:31:56.730 --> 00:31:59.789
what's important. If it now, if like you said,

00:32:00.250 --> 00:32:04.130
if a lot of people, a lot of people aren't motivated.

00:32:04.130 --> 00:32:06.509
They got to see what I get from this. What's

00:32:06.509 --> 00:32:09.069
the reward from it? That's why I wanted to kind

00:32:09.069 --> 00:32:11.390
of break that down because artists out there

00:32:11.390 --> 00:32:13.609
second guessing themselves, but they don't see

00:32:13.609 --> 00:32:16.940
the importance of having a timeless song. years

00:32:16.940 --> 00:32:19.220
and centuries from now. So that's why I was wanting

00:32:19.220 --> 00:32:22.759
to get - That's why they value - Once they know

00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:27.960
that, maybe that slight doubt, should I do it,

00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.319
should I not? They're gonna do it. Yeah. That's

00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:35.119
the value. That's what creates the value in who

00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:40.460
you are. Getting to the point to where you have

00:32:40.460 --> 00:32:43.240
a catalog, where even if you just take it to

00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.349
somebody and be like, look, There's me playing

00:32:45.349 --> 00:32:48.710
a piano on this record. Look, I recorded this

00:32:48.710 --> 00:32:52.990
Look, I mixed this record. Look, I mastered this

00:32:52.990 --> 00:32:57.450
record. Now you got four people who are Credible

00:32:57.450 --> 00:32:58.869
you get what I'm saying? And it's not saying

00:32:58.869 --> 00:33:01.309
it's not taking a listen Don't take the credit

00:33:01.309 --> 00:33:04.369
away from anybody that is meaning saying that

00:33:04.369 --> 00:33:08.349
you're if your credits on a record Take it more

00:33:08.349 --> 00:33:10.609
serious. Yeah, some don't take it serious. I'm

00:33:10.609 --> 00:33:12.269
taking this man. I gotta be the big dog, man

00:33:12.269 --> 00:33:16.539
I gotta know No, you don't have to be the big

00:33:16.539 --> 00:33:21.019
dog to be considered credible in music It doesn't

00:33:21.019 --> 00:33:23.819
there are too many people that are still alive

00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:26.539
that have credibility for music and they are

00:33:26.539 --> 00:33:30.380
still broke Let me say that Hear me hear me one

00:33:30.380 --> 00:33:32.480
more time. There are certain people that y 'all

00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:35.140
feel like, you know, they may be like, oh, you

00:33:35.140 --> 00:33:38.799
know, there's this money musical tree There's

00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.160
no money musical tree and I'm actually glad they

00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.660
took that that that Took that tree down a little

00:33:44.660 --> 00:33:48.599
because it'll make a person more humble to the

00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:51.900
music versus it mean They see what we these folks

00:33:51.900 --> 00:33:55.140
trying to do y 'all starting clickbait farms

00:33:55.140 --> 00:33:58.579
y 'all starting all of these Processes to push

00:33:58.579 --> 00:34:01.400
a record to make a record seem credible and it

00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.940
could be totally fake But if you take it back

00:34:03.940 --> 00:34:06.680
to that era when it was really a value Meaning

00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.699
people spending a hard on when default back then

00:34:09.699 --> 00:34:12.269
didn't have money like that But they went and

00:34:12.269 --> 00:34:15.409
spent they hard -earned money on records on music.

00:34:15.730 --> 00:34:20.349
That's my point So this is the reason you got

00:34:20.349 --> 00:34:23.269
to make sense in your own mind like I was speaking

00:34:23.269 --> 00:34:27.349
of because they seen the vision and Look, their

00:34:27.349 --> 00:34:30.849
music is timeless to this day It's timeless to

00:34:30.849 --> 00:34:33.329
this day and they're still eating off of that

00:34:33.329 --> 00:34:36.590
music the music that they sacrifice so much for

00:34:37.099 --> 00:34:39.219
Hmm, so that's why I want I wanted people to

00:34:39.219 --> 00:34:41.900
get that image man. Yeah, that's why I decide

00:34:41.900 --> 00:34:45.079
that's all comes I want to really explain in

00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:46.619
detail because a lot of people don't see it that

00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:48.320
way But they're still remember they're going

00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.400
to be people that are around you tied into you

00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.280
You know, they may have some of the biggest records,

00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.840
but they may not be the big person on the record

00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.780
get me So just remember the value is again being

00:34:59.780 --> 00:35:03.280
in the room That's it get in the room with some

00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:07.949
folks. It's highly motivated and ready to go,

00:35:07.949 --> 00:35:11.769
go getters and go. Think about all the rest of

00:35:11.769 --> 00:35:14.530
the stuff next time. Think about all that negative

00:35:14.530 --> 00:35:16.869
stuff. As I tell somebody, like I told somebody

00:35:16.869 --> 00:35:19.510
at church the other week, if we all came here

00:35:19.510 --> 00:35:21.909
with the same mentality, this would roll a whole

00:35:21.909 --> 00:35:24.670
lot faster. It would go a whole lot easy. But

00:35:24.670 --> 00:35:26.750
if we come in here and our minds are totally

00:35:26.750 --> 00:35:29.449
in different directions, that's exactly what

00:35:29.449 --> 00:35:33.030
the music is gonna sound like. So that is the

00:35:33.030 --> 00:35:36.199
help that I... consider that could help somebody

00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.420
that realizes money, but not only just money,

00:35:39.699 --> 00:35:42.320
just remember the value that's in music. Music

00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.440
is not considerably the case of saying it's about

00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.340
how much money you get from it. Music could be

00:35:48.340 --> 00:35:49.940
saving somebody's life. Somebody could be on

00:35:49.940 --> 00:35:52.719
their deathbed. And the music that you're putting

00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.719
out is changing their mentality. It's driving

00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:57.780
their mentality. It ain't thinking about it.

00:35:57.900 --> 00:35:59.900
It's not about a dollar. It's not about making

00:35:59.900 --> 00:36:02.019
money. It's not a see we don't like that. We

00:36:02.019 --> 00:36:03.960
don't they don't think like that, bro. They don't

00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.760
like like that. The vision is bigger than most

00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.400
people have ever, you know, looked at it as,

00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.900
you know, that's why I always thought like, okay,

00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.219
when it's my time to like really get into music,

00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.000
it can be made sense of the sense that I like

00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:24.239
to make a music is I want to touch one person,

00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.380
just one person. If you touch one person with

00:36:28.380 --> 00:36:32.019
your music. That's value in it. That's why I

00:36:32.019 --> 00:36:34.800
say, nobody's thinking about, nobody ain't thinking

00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.260
about how much money you put into getting that

00:36:37.260 --> 00:36:40.280
record out. So stop looking at it and stop pressing

00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:42.699
it as if in, man, y 'all don't know what it took

00:36:42.699 --> 00:36:45.199
me to get this record out. No, no, no. Put the

00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.320
record out. Put the record out. Give it energy

00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:51.619
from the jump. Give it positive energy. Look,

00:36:51.619 --> 00:36:55.280
y 'all, I got this record. I love it. I'm inspired

00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.500
by it. God put this together. These words are

00:36:59.500 --> 00:37:03.019
affirmation. Nobody wants to hear, man, I done

00:37:03.019 --> 00:37:04.719
spent all this money on this, man. Y 'all need

00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.059
to, you already done gave the record a bad reputation

00:37:07.059 --> 00:37:09.179
just from you doing it just that way. You don't

00:37:09.179 --> 00:37:11.599
pay a utility bill. You don't pay the car payment.

00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.119
You don't pay that mortgage. You don't, you know

00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.019
what I'm saying? You can't take it with you at

00:37:16.019 --> 00:37:17.260
the end of the day. You ain't saying nothing

00:37:17.260 --> 00:37:18.880
about that. Talking about how much you don't

00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.719
pay them. But you gonna complain the moment you

00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.679
spend a dime into you, you wanna complain. Take

00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.159
a look at it like that. Like think about I know

00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.280
we talking man, but man I remember my mom used

00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.599
to get on me about the music right and I told

00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.460
my mom I said mom you more concerned about me

00:37:38.460 --> 00:37:42.519
going to work and Spending my money to these

00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.280
white people giving it. I understand responsibility

00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:48.500
But I say if I got it and this is my passion

00:37:48.500 --> 00:37:51.860
in my dream Why aren't you for me supporting

00:37:51.860 --> 00:37:55.210
my dream also in my music? just as much as you

00:37:55.210 --> 00:37:58.869
are for me supporting paying this white man this

00:37:58.869 --> 00:38:01.789
utility or paying this white man or paying this

00:38:01.789 --> 00:38:04.250
person this or paying this person, paying somebody

00:38:04.250 --> 00:38:07.989
that don't benefit me getting anything in return

00:38:07.989 --> 00:38:11.210
from it. Like, why would I go so hard for that

00:38:11.210 --> 00:38:15.650
and not my own personal career or my history

00:38:15.650 --> 00:38:18.369
or something as Quincy? You know what I'm saying?

00:38:18.750 --> 00:38:21.710
So that's how I looked at it now, like just to

00:38:21.710 --> 00:38:24.719
end it like. That's what music is. You know what

00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.980
I'm saying? It's your catalog. It's you. It's

00:38:27.980 --> 00:38:30.780
always gonna stick with you. Even if I leave

00:38:30.780 --> 00:38:33.539
this earth, the wine's still living. Guess what?

00:38:33.980 --> 00:38:37.400
He produced it. Oh, who that on the record? Quincy.

00:38:37.579 --> 00:38:40.340
It go hand in hand. Vice versa. You know what

00:38:40.340 --> 00:38:43.159
I'm saying? Oh, who produced that? Q? The wine

00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:47.420
burino. You know, like collaborations exist and

00:38:47.420 --> 00:38:55.469
they are important. If a help was to come, that's

00:38:55.469 --> 00:38:58.050
the help that you should go off of. And no disrespect

00:38:58.050 --> 00:39:00.230
to my mama, man. Hey, there wasn't no disrespect

00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:06.929
to my mama. I just wanted you to see the mindset

00:39:06.929 --> 00:39:10.010
that you gotta have when it comes to wanting

00:39:10.010 --> 00:39:13.969
this for yourself. Sometimes people are not gonna

00:39:13.969 --> 00:39:18.369
see that vision like you see it, but you still

00:39:18.369 --> 00:39:21.539
have to believe in that vision. And I'm talking

00:39:21.539 --> 00:39:24.039
to some artists, upcoming artists out there.

00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.820
Don't expect nobody to see your vision as much

00:39:27.820 --> 00:39:31.179
as you see it for yourself. You gotta see it

00:39:31.179 --> 00:39:34.400
that much and believe, be that crazy to believe

00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.800
that this is going to work when nobody else believes

00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:39.900
it like that. Or they might just second guess

00:39:39.900 --> 00:39:43.920
it. They might just be scared, but don't let

00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:47.380
their fear instill fear into you. That's what

00:39:47.380 --> 00:39:50.269
I'm saying. get around some people that's fearless

00:39:50.269 --> 00:39:53.010
when you get, when you collaborate, as we've

00:39:53.010 --> 00:39:57.010
been talking about, but yeah. Yep. In the next

00:39:57.010 --> 00:40:02.050
20 years, there should be one person that can

00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:04.989
understand this, maybe two people. It's not easy

00:40:04.989 --> 00:40:08.449
right now, just due to the people want money,

00:40:08.750 --> 00:40:11.050
you know, but my thing is if you really want

00:40:11.050 --> 00:40:14.150
money, you know, separate wanting money from

00:40:14.150 --> 00:40:17.139
wanting the music. That'd be the biggest, that's

00:40:17.139 --> 00:40:19.400
the best way to say this. Separate one from music

00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:25.059
and money, then you'll go a long way. Those who,

00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.860
again, help, that's all we've been talking about.

00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:33.079
This is help, get help. And your life and generational

00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.719
things can change just from you getting help.

00:40:37.059 --> 00:40:39.860
Don't always stick to the bottom. Stick it to

00:40:39.860 --> 00:40:42.179
the bottom is something that's really a mentality,

00:40:42.179 --> 00:40:44.239
you know, it's really just the up mentality when

00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.280
you just think different That's all it is. It

00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:47.860
ain't got nothing to do with the money. It's

00:40:47.860 --> 00:40:52.699
the mentality. So You know take your value of

00:40:52.699 --> 00:40:56.679
what you do and make sense of it Mentally, that's

00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:59.159
all I would love people to do You know know when

00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.980
to say this is money know when to say this is

00:41:01.980 --> 00:41:04.260
life knowing to say that this is love That's

00:41:04.260 --> 00:41:07.500
all this stuff is it's different stages Once

00:41:07.500 --> 00:41:09.730
you understand it Everybody else to understand

00:41:09.730 --> 00:41:11.750
it totally different, but if they nobody understanding

00:41:11.750 --> 00:41:14.670
you in what your music is trying to bring forth

00:41:14.670 --> 00:41:19.050
and What good is you know if it can't be carried

00:41:19.050 --> 00:41:22.449
on over using is all right? We love y 'all good

00:41:22.449 --> 00:41:25.969
people on autism community disabilities community

00:41:25.969 --> 00:41:28.949
Love you. Take care of yourselves continue to

00:41:28.949 --> 00:41:32.469
stay motivated. Uh And if you aren't following,

00:41:32.570 --> 00:41:35.250
please follow everything not just music podcast

00:41:35.250 --> 00:41:40.000
is done Where there's nothing short of being

00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:46.679
active and taking content and not looking for

00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.519
any money or anything from it. It's just really

00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:53.539
just a thing of getting to express, be opinionative,

00:41:53.820 --> 00:41:57.000
and help people understand differently than maybe

00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.300
what they've already thought. And in the end,

00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.940
I love all y 'all. Q, we out. Till next time,

00:42:05.420 --> 00:42:05.860
peace.