Historical Womanizing of The Black Culture - Homeisode 46

In this Homeisode, we delve into the historical and systemic issue of womanizing within Black culture, tracing its roots back to the brutal era of slavery. This discussion is not intended as an endorsement or celebration but rather as a crucial wake-up call, urging reflection and action. We examine how these harmful patterns have persisted and continue to impact communities today, exploring the need for open conversations, education, and collective healing.
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Hey, hey, hey, man, what's good? It's your boy
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Quincy Murdock with another episode of Not Just
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Music Podcast. How everybody doing, man? As always,
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you know, back with the topics, back with the
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topics. We normally always try to keep it...
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We try to keep it PG. We always try to keep it...
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in the realms of showing the positive side of
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black. And we build ourself on talking about
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the history of black. Sometimes the history of
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black comes with trials and tribulations and
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things that may be hard to talk about, but they're
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crucial parts to being black, our history. That's
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really why we talk about black history, right?
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So one thing we have to know is with our past,
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it's going to be some unsettling things that
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we talk about. We have to address, you know,
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with the black community, how far we've came
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and things that might not look good, always look
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good. You know, some things that may look bad
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aren't bashes on the black community are bad
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things saying about the black community. It's
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more of. explaining the backstory of black and
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certain situations why certain black people are
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the way they are or why we think the way we think
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uh how far we've come from a situation are our
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past so i wanted to talk about something because
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you know this what i'm about to speak on is very
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heavy and it sails more than anything and that's
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sex black history in the sex realm Sexually.
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And I want to read something because, you know,
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I was doing my research and I thought this was
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deep. You know, it was deep and it kind of puts
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in perspective of sex porn and sex in the black
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community. How is view? Why? Why do we have those
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feelings? Why are we looked at the way we are
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looked at sexually? Sometimes, you know, the
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black community. So I want to read something.
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OK, it says black history surrounding sexuality
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is largely defined by racial stereotypes, sexual
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violence and the struggle for sexual autonomy
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stemming from slavery, errors, exploitation of
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black bodies and of justification of black men
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and women. Now, does that sound familiar? You
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know, if you think about it like. racially stereotyped
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women are more black women are more known to
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be curvy black women are more known to be sexually
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dominant than a white female in the world's eyes
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they feel that way i think society has tended
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on has tended more into thinking looking at black
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women as lust over love and i feel like That's
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why, you know, it's important for our black queens
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to present themselves right out here in the community
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and, you know, broadcast their achievements.
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Because as I just read racial stereotypes, you
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know, most black women I looked at is the hood
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rats, chicken heads, you know, the only good
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for laying on their back, quote unquote. This
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is this is what the world thinks, which is totally
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not true to me. So stereotyping can be big in
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the black community sexually, even with men.
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Society look at black men as if we're just as
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super aggressive by nature. We can't love. We're
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not gentle. We're not gentlemen. We're just animals
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in the bedroom, outside of the bedroom, hardcore.
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And that's far from the truth because there's
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some great gentlemen in the world. It's very
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romantic. That's very. you know uh loving that's
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caring and respectful especially um being from
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down south a lot of men black men from down south
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are the wealth most well -mannered men ever you
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know i'm born and raised in the south and i can
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say i was raised with respect and you hold the
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door you know for the woman or um your elders
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are when you're walking you walk closer to the
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street your female companion walk near the grass
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so she won't get hit we were raised talk little
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things like that sexual violence has always been
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something that was you know big since slavery
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and uh i'll put it to the day is a lot of things
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that happened to us back then that happens to
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us now we normalize it as a black community like
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we'll say We weren't victims when we were victims.
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And I'll use this as an example. You could be
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17, 18, young, female, attractive. And you could
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have a 40 year old that knows your age. And even
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though you agree to it, you sexually agree to
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lay with this man, be with this man. He knows
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it's not right. And he's taking advantage of
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you. But in your mind, you're saying, I said,
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yes, I wanted this because I did it. He didn't
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force me, but he manipulated you in a way to
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get what he wanted from you. So sexual violence
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advantages has always been happening towards
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the black community, especially the black women
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that were slaves back in the day. These white
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masters, slave masters, they called them what?
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You know, take these black women from these black
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men and basically have sex with them, you know,
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and, you know, take advantage of them. And I
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see that now a lot, you know, even in the porn
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industry, you know, it seems like the most celebrated
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type of porn. Is black white man dominating black
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one black woman, you know, and I think that's
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still a stem from. the past, the history. You
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know what I'm saying? And that's something that
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needs to be changed. That's why I'm bringing
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light to this stuff. Enslaved people develop
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their own sexual customs and commitment ceremonies
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despite enslaved women's lack of legal protection
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and sexual abuse they face from enslavers. Post
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-slavery stereotypes like hypersexual Jezebel
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and dehumanization humanized, brute, persistent,
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shaping public disclosure and leading to historical
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avoidance of the topic by scholars. So basically.
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A lot of stuff that. Is not right. A lot of stuff
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we know that that, you know, I'm saying that's
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against God's will. For example, we have made
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slogans and we have made terms and we have made
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it OK. You know what I'm saying? The same exact
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things that the Bible go against. We have kind
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of made our own way of thinking. We've made our
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own way of controlling what we feel is right
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and wrong. And like, for example, a man should
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be with a woman. You know, we all know this,
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like no disrespect to your sexual preference
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or nothing like that. I respect everybody, whatever
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you do. But according to God. It was Adam and
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Eve, man and a woman. People get mad at you when
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you bring the word. You're just speaking. What's
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the word? We're not. I'm not speaking on my personal
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beliefs. You know, my personal beliefs is you
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can do what you want to do. You can be who you
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want to be. Feel comfortable in your skin, but
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also know what God originated and wrote and wanted
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us to be and what he expect of us. You know,
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that's different from opinion. That can't be
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questioned. That's God. You know what I'm saying?
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So then it says sexual exploitation during slavery,
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1619, 1865. And I'm going to list some of these.
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Sexual violence. Enslavers systematically sexually
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abuse and abuse enslaved people using their bodies
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for financial gain, pleasure, and punishment.
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What does that sound like? Porn, as I stated
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earlier. A lot of these porn stars using their
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bodies, selling their bodies for money, uh, prostitution,
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you know, uh, you're selling your body, you know,
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all of these forms are somewhat slave mentality,
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the pleasure, you know what I'm saying? Of, of
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this lust, you know, it's, it's, it's slave mentality
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and the punishments, you know, some women are
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people, women are still getting captured and
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abused. even in relationships are being abused
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and taken advantage of by these men and vice
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versa you know lack of autonomy enslaved women
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lack legal protection against sexual assault
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and were subjected to involuntary reproduction
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to increase the slavers wealth so a lot of situations
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women are still they don't really have protection
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like that when it's Especially when it comes
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to black on black. You notice the world really
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never has a problem when it's black on black.
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If it's a black man abusing a black woman. Or
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if it's a you know, I'm saying it really it really
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isn't a big of a deal as if it was a black man
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abusing a white woman. If a black man was abusing
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a white woman, most likely he will be put under
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the jail. That's if he make it to jail. You know,
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we know the Emmett Till and the history of that,
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you know, him whistling at the white lady and
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they they beat him for days and to eventually
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to he died. You know, that's history, too. You
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can look that up. Emmett Till. It's not really
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a big deal when we do it to our own. But when
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we do it to their race, that's when it's a big
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deal. Forced relationships. Enslaved people,
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both men and women, were sometimes forced into
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sexual unions with white individuals for survival
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to avoid punishment or to secure better treatment
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for themselves or their families. Oh, OK. So
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I'm a get personal. The way that I just read
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that, you know how black women were forced to
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sleep with these white men to get better treatment.
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Basically, like the white man would say, I allow
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you to come in the house and work rather than
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be outside. If you betray your husband, you betray
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your man. You know, I'll give you this. If you
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give me your body, I give you reward. What's
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the welfare system a lot mainly are you know
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white or i'll say a lot of black uncle toms that
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only if the man is not involved he can't live
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stuff over family. And the welfare system, I
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breaking up society and breaking up families
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within the Black community. And the communities
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all together, but I'm speaking specifically on
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the black communities. I think that played a
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big role in the demise of black families, the
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welfare system. So forced relationships, like
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I said, they're basically forcing you into relationships
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now. You know, they give you all these fortunes
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and fame and free housing, free food, free this,
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free that. And all you have to do is just abandon
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your morals, abandon your respect. abandon what's
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right abandon family you know and they'll give
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you that so I think they switched the roles and
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it's still sexual parts involved but now more
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it's more like financially they try to take advantage
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of you psychologically stereotypes the practice
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of stripping and examining enslaved people on
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auction blocks reinforced the belief that black
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women were naturally lustful and innocuous Okay,
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strippers. You ever think about when you're on
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that pole and you're, you know what I'm saying?
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You're spinning around with your two -piece.
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Sometimes you might be naked. Some clubs allow
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you to be naked. And you have that white man
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in the front throwing money on you. Just throwing
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it. You know, you might have that black man up
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there too. But a lot of these older white men
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have money to just throw like that. You know,
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they bored. They bored, they boring, got this
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money, and they just throwing it on you in the
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clubs. And a lot of black women, heard black
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women personally that was in the stripping business,
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was in the prostitution, and they would say,
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word for word, they would say, I only really
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like dealing with white men because white men
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are going to pay me more. White men are going
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to, you know, I don't really have to, work is
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hard for white men some white men just want me
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to do crazy stuff like five minutes and they
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pay me 10 grand you know and that's how it was
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back then like a lot of these white men view
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our black women as just lust you know like our
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needs what we wanted what what they wanted not
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we what they wanted so you can still see the
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similarities of All that that goes on, you know,
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with within it. Yeah, I just wanted to talk about
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that. It goes on to say the post -slavery era
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and lasting stereotypes. Let me get these in.
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So white freight, the fear of interracial sexuality,
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few racist attitudes and policies during the
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Civil War, Reconstruction and beyond. Hmm. So,
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you know. As we know, you know, sometimes black
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and white can be looked down upon. Sometimes
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the white community doesn't really like black
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mixing in with their community. And you have
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vice versa. Some blacks feel like you should
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only date black. You should only be black. You
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know, like the Black Panthers mentality. You
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have people like that. And the black community
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feel like a black man should be with a black
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woman. A black woman should be with a black man.
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You have that, you know. And that still goes
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on to today. I believe in that. Gisabelle and
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Brooke stereotypes. Historical association of
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black women with hypersexuality, Jezebel, and
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black men with uncontrollable lust and violence,
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Brute, continue to be used to demon and control
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black communities. You know, they still stereotype
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us. Like I said earlier, you know, they think
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of men as being aggressive, brutal animals, you
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know, and they think of women as just being freaks.
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all they all they good for is laying on their
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back all they good for is sex and that's just
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how we've always been viewed and and and somewhat
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to this day some people still view us that way
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which is far from the truth because it's a lot
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of great people doing great black people doing
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great things historical silence the painful story
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of slavery rape and lynching made open discussions
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about black sexuality taboo even for scholars
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Yeah. You know, as we know the history, like,
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you know, we have a lot of bad things happen
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to the black community. A lot of things. And
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as I stated earlier, a lot of these things aren't
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easy to talk about. But us as black people have
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been made to sweep things under the rug if it's
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sensitive, because we don't want to talk about
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that. Leading into the families like. When something
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happened to you back in the day, this is the
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mentality. We've always been told family is everything
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in the black community. Somebody molesters you.
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Somebody does you wrong. You were told, most
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likely back then, don't say nothing. Or even
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if you went and said something that happened
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to you from a family member or a close friend,
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they would say your line. You would get crucified.
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So it made victims scared to come out. It made
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victims scared to express themselves. me doing
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this i feel is important because in the black
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community we want to just oh that's that's touchy
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that's no let's not talk about that let's not
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do that let's not say that but what souls are
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we helping by hiding the truth what souls are
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we uh freeing that's trapped like you know by
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not saying the truth by not revealing the truth
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and that's why this is important because this
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could save somebody that's enslaved mentally
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or still that something bad happened to him maybe
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this would give them the courage to come out
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no matter if it's family or stranger when you're
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done wrong you should come out you should get
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help you should tell somebody your situation
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what happened to you I don't care who it is like
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you know wrong is wrong and you deserve to be
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protected and you don't deserve to be depressed
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you don't deserve to be overwhelmed you don't
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deserve to feel like You were in the wrong. No,
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you weren't. You weren't. You were a great person
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that was taken advantage of, you know. And then
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it says reclaiming and understanding black sexuality,
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breaking the silence. In recent years, some black
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scholars have begun to break the silence. See
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what what did I just basically say and openly
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discuss the complex of black sexuality. You know,
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we're more open. A lot of this generation are
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more open now to sexuality, our past than the
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older folks were back then. Now it's more, you
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see more people being more comfortable in their
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skin. You see more people being honest of who
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they are, what's happened to them, telling their
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story. You know, you see that. And that's a great
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thing because I feel like now people don't have
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to hide who they are. People don't have to lie
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about who they are. They can just. Come out and
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say it because we've made this foundation and
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laid this platform to where it's OK being who
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you truly are. And I think that's very important,
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whether we believe in it or not. Who are we to
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say how someone should live their life or what
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they should do? You know, that's their life.
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We are nowhere to be able to judge because everybody
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might not agree with what we do. But my thing
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is, just stick to who you are. Don't let anything
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influence you or take over what you do. Main
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thing is controlling what you do and how you
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move. You know, that's that's the key. Don't
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worry about how the world moves. And then it
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says cultural impact. Music, film and television
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have. Painted black sexuality in various ways
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through the historical content of exploitation
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and sexual violence remains influential. And
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I started out by saying sex is. You know, if
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you want to sell anything, sell sex. Like, a
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lot of things have went down. You know, movies
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really aren't selling like that. Music had a
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demise at one point, like, where it's up and
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down. Nobody's listening to music. Entertainment,
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television, whatever. You have sports. You have
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these things and businesses and organizations
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that peak, you know, go up and down. But one
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thing that I noticed that I always going to sell
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is sex. Hate it or love it, like sex sales. And
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I really never seen no demise. Like people may
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be broke. They'll spend their last dollar on
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sex, a sexual favor. It's sad, but it's true.
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You know, sex sales. And I think that's why porn,
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OnlyFans, anything sexually. will always have
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money like it they'll never really go broke i
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feel um anything ran sexually a sex business
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uh sexually business whatever it is i feel like
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they will never really see a demise because sex
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sells but what i want us to do is get out of
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that old mentality and i really brought this
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to your attention to show you to awaken you and
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enlighten you like if it's any of those things
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that you may be doing maybe Think about it in
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another perspective. When you up now, up there
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on that strip of ho, like, you know, how they
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viewed us back then until this day, how some
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of you was, um, maybe that'll make you think
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more about it. Not saying change who you are.
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That's up to you. But I'm saying, I just, my
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main thing is to get you to think at least think
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about it. You know what I'm saying? And if you
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think about it, you make your own decision. So
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once again, it's another episode of not just
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music podcast. I know I covered a lot. It's episode.
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But I think this was important. Till again, friends.
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Love. Quincy Murdock.