Aug. 5, 2025

Artistry, Hip-Hop Culture and Branding ft. L Crock - Homeisode 34

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Artistry, Hip-Hop Culture and Branding ft. L Crock - Homeisode 34

This Homeisode explores the vibrant intersection of artistry, hip-hop culture, and branding specifically within the Philadelphia, PA (Philly) scene. Thanks to L Crock, we'll delve into how local artists are not only creating impactful music and visual content but also building strong personal brands that resonate with their community and beyond. Expect insights into unique branding strategies, the influence of Philly's rich cultural heritage, and the collaborative spirit that fuels this dynamic creative ecosystem.

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yo what's good people it's quincy murdoch courteous

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and not just music podcast one of the co -hosts

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um we got a special special guest right now man

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um born and raised coming from philly man shout

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out to philly uh i'm gonna let this man introduce

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himself man hey man how y 'all doing how y 'all

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doing man thanks for having me it's your boy

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l croc Coming straight out of West Philadelphia

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right now. I was born, I was actually born in

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Chester. I moved to Philly in 98. So from Chester,

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from PA to PA, Chester, PA, all the way to Philly,

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baby. Okay, okay. So tell the people, man, what

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all you do, man, other than music? I looked at

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your, you know, your background and your info.

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What all do you do? It's a string's a lie. I

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mean, everything ties back into making that impact,

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being that difference maker in the communities,

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not just my community. We're going to touch every

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community, every local and inner city community.

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Quick little background. I'm an artist myself.

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I started off that way. I write music, all different

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kinds of genres of music. I decided to turn that

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attention into putting my capabilities into other

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upcoming artists. And to kind of like do a little

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recap of my background, I didn't know what I

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know now. So I took a lot of time. And once I

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got locked in with taking a music series, I decided

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to learn the business part of it. So I spent

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a lot of time learning the business part, learning

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how to actually structure a business correctly,

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knowing how to fund a business correctly. And

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I tied all that into music since I'm so into

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music. And that's what I'm pouring back into

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communities because there's a lot of underserved

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artists that don't have the knowledge of the

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business part. So that's where I come in and

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make sure they're going in the right direction.

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Right, right. OK, so let me rewind a little bit.

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So, you know, Philly, you know, because you're

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talking to somebody that's like basically was

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born and raised in the Carolinas and down south.

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Tell us a lot, you know, because we black men.

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Give us a little bit of the black history in

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Philly, like some some black important people,

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you know, just even if it ain't celebrities,

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some of the things that y 'all known for, like

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what's known in Philly, you know, some big things

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about Philly. The number one thing is talent.

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There's so much talent here in the city, man.

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Especially music -wise. It's a lot of individuals,

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names that you can name that paved the way. It's

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like so much different talent. And a lot of that

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talent is hitting. A lot of that talent ain't

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get to the big stage yet because... the lack

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of opportunity so it's like you you got the talent

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there but you don't have the individuals that's

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that's capable yeah that's capable to give them

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that push and that's not taken away from like

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the people that came out the city like the the

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beanie seagulls the meek mills like that's not

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the will smith that's not taking anything away

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because it's a lot of individuals that came out

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the city that got like this celebrity background

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That's pouring back into the city, man. It's

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us. You know, it's our Black kings and queens

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that's, you know, not aligning up correctly or

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the wrong mentality. You know what I mean? Right.

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Or think they know it all. So that's what I'm

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attacking. But, man, you got Gilly the Kid and

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Y -Lo. Like, they promised. Yeah, yeah. You're

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good, brother. I actually want to meet them.

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Yeah. They promise samples, man. Like, who next?

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You know what I mean? Right. And, you know, it's

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just so much behind the scenes, staying quiet,

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that I'm pulling that out. Come on. You know,

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I'm frontlining individuals, man. You know what

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I mean? Yeah. So what age did you, like, find

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a love for music? Like, at what age was it that

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you could say? Twelve. 12? I was like 12, yeah.

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Yeah, I was 12 going on 13. So we talking, you

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know, back in 2002. Right. That, you know, the

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love was there. It just, you know, then my whole

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teenage years, it was just, I was having fun

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with it, you know what I mean? I was cool with,

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like, the neighborhood, you know what I mean?

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You know, I wasn't even... You weren't really

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thinking about the business part of it right

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then. Nah, not at all. Like, as far as, you know,

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being on TV and... I was all right just being

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in my hood with it. But, you know, as time went

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on, like I was always in love with it, but it

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always was a back and forth thing. You know what

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I mean? Then once I start maturing and developing

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into that individual that gained responsibilities

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and things in that nature, especially with having

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a kid at 18 years old, I kind of put my focus

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into like priority of becoming a... He's becoming

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a good father and a better person. So I spent

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like a decade, man, re -evaluating myself, man.

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You know, giving up. So around 18, that's when

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you kind of, is that when you really took it

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serious? Started taking the music serious when

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you had your kid? Nah, it didn't even happen

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then. It happened, I think, it probably was like

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2023. At freaking 23, I was 34. Yeah, I'm 36

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now. Yeah, I just finally locked in two years

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ago, bro. But see, look, that's a good thing

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that you say that, though, because a lot of people

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think that it's too late to follow their dreams,

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you know what I'm saying, and accomplish what

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they want to do. But like you said, man, two

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decades almost, and that's when it clicked. So

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it can happen at any moment, man, as long as

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you got that drive. Absolutely. Who was some

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of your inspirations? You from, I want to hear

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this. You from Philly. I want to know, like,

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I want to know this because y 'all got some hitters.

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Y 'all, you know what I'm saying? Y 'all got

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some hitters. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, um, I really,

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I really like it. It's a, it's a lot of people

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are watching. They just wasn't from the city.

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So it was a lot of like big entrepreneur, like,

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like, like the Robert Smiths and, and even Will

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Smith. And then. I watched, uh, in her background

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stories on like Nas, you know what I mean? Idols,

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like rap idols, you know what I mean? Jada kiss.

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Um, I did just, just to name a few, like I was

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just, I'm like, I want to, I want to do music,

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but I want the brand part to actually be a business.

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So that's what I finally concluded last year.

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But, um, if you can speak on that, what are some

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of those, um, things that you kind of, picked

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up on last year business -wise? Like, what are

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some of those keys that you got serious about?

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The number one thing is structuring your brand

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as a business. And I feel like if you're an artist,

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that's your brand. So, you know, your name is

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your brand. So, you want to start with structuring

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yourself correctly with having your entity set

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up properly. And, you know, to give yourself

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that... Set yourself up to maximize funding potential.

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That's the number one goal because it gets expensive,

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man. It gets pricey. You know what I mean? The

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number one thing is you want to have the money

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behind you. Not your money. You know what I mean?

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You want to have that bread behind you, man.

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The key thing to that is on how you're going

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to utilize it. Biggest thing, man, is finding

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the right who, that right mentor. Because you

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want to go to a millionaire to teach you how

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to make the millions. They already experienced

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it. So the biggest thing being, if people get

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the funding, they think they got it all figured

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out because they know the business part. Never

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shot at a million dollars before, but think they

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got it all figured out. That's not a good job.

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So I want to cut in right there because you gave

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me a good point to pick up on. Did you have that

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mentor? Or did you have to learn it? You did?

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Not at all. A lot of people that I look at, especially

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my father, that was my number one influence.

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I can't leave Pop out because he taught me how

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to survive. He taught me how to be a man. But

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he wasn't able to teach me things he didn't know.

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And he didn't know about financial literacy.

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He didn't have that. He wasn't taught that. Once

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I dialed into that, I brought that back home

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to him. Like, look, Pop. This is what we can

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do. He like, damn, you know what I mean? So now

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it's another perspective. And that makes him

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even happier. Like, damn, he dug deep. And he

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want to do better not for himself but for his

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people. That's what's up. So, you know, I pay

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like the same game I might have spent thousands

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of dollars on. I give away to that next person

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for free. Just to see that develop start. Because,

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like, I'm big on a legacy, like a name. I ain't

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really big on money, because my blessings come.

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You know what I mean? Preach, brother. So I'm

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big on, like, damn, let me leave that impact,

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that household name that's never going to be

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forgotten. Exactly. You know, it costs this if

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you're fucking with Kroc. No, you know what I

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mean? The money going to come if you are real,

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you know what? If you are real, the money going

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to come. yeah yeah it's like all that had to

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come into fruition man i had to i and i'm still

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a student of the game like it's still things

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processor still developing growing every day

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but i needed that i needed that big off you know

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mentality wise so i you know i had to i had to

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fall back you know i mean for for a long period

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of time and just to get that So, okay, let's

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dive into the music, man. What would you classify

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your style more as? Like, what kind of, are you

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just rap? Do you sing? Do you melody? Like, you

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know, give us a little detail about, you know,

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your style and everything. Well, I'm an inspirational

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lyricist. That's what I can tell. I love that.

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Like, I don't say rap. I use the term artist

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because everybody's familiar with that. But my

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artistry means... a numerous of things. You know

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what I mean? Like content work, um, lyricists,

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um, my, my, my image being approachable, knowledgeable.

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So, um, you know, my terminology to rapper is

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lyricist. Um, I, I'm, I'm more, I'm more, I'm

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more so the teacher, you know, I like to, I like

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to motivate, get game. You like to put something

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on the top of the dome for him to think. Exactly,

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exactly. And, you know, the biggest thing for

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me is I don't just look for attention. I'm all

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right with having attention, but I want feeling

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behind all my metaphors and my bars. So, you

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know, that's my goal, man. I want to provide

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feeling and then you understand afterwards. And,

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you know, and then I include my songs. with an

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interview behind it. Every release, it comes

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with an interview behind it. That way, you got

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a clear understanding about the song. Y 'all

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listen. He put that promo behind it. Don't just

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drop the song. You put that work in. After you

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get in that studio, you write that song. The

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real work comes after you drop it. People don't

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know that. A song ain't going to take off, but

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only so far, how you push it is going to determine.

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How far it goes. And that missing piece, it'd

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be the smallest things that you can add on to

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these releases, to these promos. A quick little

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voiceover, you know what I mean? That's like

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30 seconds. That's a real good call to action,

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man. A quick little voiceover over. You could

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just have your goddamn album cover in the background.

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You know what I mean? It don't take money. It

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don't take a lot, man. Like, look, this technology

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we using, man, hey, it's so many things we can

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do without spending a lot of bread. Now, you

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know what I'm saying? Absolutely. What, what,

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okay, what, what is some of, you know, some of

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your songs that you proud of, you know, some

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of your work, man, to let the people know, you

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know what I'm saying? The work you have, are

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you on platforms? Like, let us know. Yeah, yeah,

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on all platforms, man. Okay. I'm proud of all

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the work, man. The songs that really hit me,

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some of my favorite songs was a record that I

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got that's called Built Different. It speaks

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so much volume into characteristics. You know

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what I mean? It's a reminder of who we are and

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what we is. Even though I was representing myself

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on that, the way I put it together, it was It

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was like a lot of times, just because I'm saying

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me, it ain't, it ain't just for me. It's for

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y 'all. You know what I mean? So, um, that's

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one of my favorite records, man. That's on all

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platforms. There's actually a video to that.

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Then I got a record called, then I got a record

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called truth. You know, it's so much meaning

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behind that because this is what, this is why

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a lot of talent get held back because they believe

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in to dreams. They get sold these dreams, man,

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and it don't be the individual. You know, sometimes

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these artists just be that hungry. You know what

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I mean? They hear something that they think is

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good, and they on attack mode. You know what

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I mean? And it also stems to everyday life, like

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personal life. Like, we got this so -called fake

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support that'll be like, yo, you hot, and they

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know that. Hey, listen, listen, bro, listen.

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Listen, I swear I just did a podcast. I did a

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solo where I was talking about because down here,

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you know, you got a lot of people, a lot of yes

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men in your camps. Like, you know, down south,

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they're not going to tell you if that is corny

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or not. You know what I'm saying? Your homeboy

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going to still be jamming to it. But that's,

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but it's, you know, but it's, you know, the gatekeepers,

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they're going to tell you, like, yeah. That's

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how, you know, we want him to be the face of

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the city. Yeah. Knowing that it ain't real. So

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I always said how the East Coast do things, New

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York, how they tell you your trash, you know.

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Absolutely. They're going to tell you your trash.

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Yo, that's important. Yeah, it is. It's going

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to help you improve. Absolutely. You know what

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I'm saying? Because it ain't even got to be derogatory.

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Like, it's just the honesty, bro. Like, it's

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so, it's so played with. Honesty is just like.

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You would think it's a foreign language nowadays.

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Hey, freeze, brother. So you like that truth

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thing, man. I came from a real, real sentimental

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place because, you know, I've been that individual.

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I was lied to a lot over nonsense, man. And,

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you know, what I did was I made it. I actually

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made it a reality thing. I turned. the record

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into a reality thing so it's relatable on all

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aspects like relationships you know i mean job

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related you know i mean something with your kids

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so because people love when you talk to them

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too absolutely like r &b songs like r &b singers

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when you singing some females take it personal

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like oh he's singing to me yeah same with rap

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if you if you hit some touchy points and you

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rapping you could be rapping to that brother

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on the street on the corner you know or something

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like that so yeah I'm big on your type of music.

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Yeah, I'm big on that type. And I got an EP that

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I just dropped on Bandcamp. I left it on Bandcamp

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just to find that audience. So I got a lot of

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individuals that decided to sign up to my email

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list. So I'm like tending to them right now.

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And I'm tending it to them Forever fans, those

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loyal fans that's like following the movement.

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That's genuinely a part of the movement. I'm

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a fan now. I'm a fan now. I'm going to lock in

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with you. I appreciate it, man. I appreciate

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that. I'm going to lock in with you. Go ahead.

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I dialed up an EP called Shared Experiences,

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and that EP is strictly about drama, like relationship

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drama in all different categories, whether it's

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intimate or friendship, whatever. So let me ask

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you this question. Let me ask you this. Cause

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I already think I know the answer to this. Cause

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it's just based on who you are. Yeah. How much

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of your reps and your music is true? Like your

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true life. Would you say? I will say, I will

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say at least 90 % of it. Cause, cause it's a,

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it's that 10 % where I'm just talking about our

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individual that actually had the experience.

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So I'm not going to say. I experience every single

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thing that I put in my bars because some of my

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bars be for them people that's too shy to speak

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up or that need that voice to say it for them.

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So I like to be in representation. I'm really

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that stone for my people. Like, I got you. You

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know what I mean? I talk about that. And it's

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a record on shared experience where, like I'm

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talking, it's a song called Hella Vicious on

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there. And that whole situation from beginning

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to end, that storytelling, because I'm a storyteller,

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it had nothing to do with me, man. It was somebody

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else's story that they wanted me to speak for.

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And I did it. You know what I mean? And I did

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it. So I would say like a good 10 % I leave open

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for people that want me to share their story

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through my music because that's who I am. I represent

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our people. I'm relatable to our people. It's

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always going to be reality. Like, I ain't making

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no bullshit up. Like, I'm not talking about.

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You 100 % real. You 100%. You a real one. You

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a real one, man. We already know. So that's a

00:19:39.769 --> 00:19:42.890
great question, man. Because I never even considered

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that. Until you asked that question, I was like.

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You know what I'm going to tell you? Because

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a lot of people don't care about the lyrics or

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who the artist. I'm a music head. You know what

00:19:54.029 --> 00:19:56.609
I'm saying? I'm an artist myself. But before

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art, before doing it, I'm a fan of the music.

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So I really hold this person accountable to who

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is telling me this, who's singing this, who's

00:20:06.150 --> 00:20:08.069
rapping this. You know what I'm saying? Because

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words are powerful, man. You know? And like you

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say, we trying to lead generations. So what we

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say is going to impact them. You know what I'm

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saying? So that's deep what you said, man. Like

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pretty much all your stuff is true. You know

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what I'm saying? Absolutely. I respect it. I

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appreciate that, man. So other than music, man,

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okay, your future, where do you see yourself

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dabbing into, you know, in the next five to ten

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years, like other than music, man? Is there any

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other things that you see yourself doing or want

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to do? Yeah, creating millionaires. Okay. I'm

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going to be creating millionaires in the next

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five years. Okay. People that were starting from

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scratch, that working them jobs that they hate.

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That always was getting done dirty, trusting

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the wrong people. You know what I mean? That

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don't have a family. You know what I mean? Yeah,

00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:05.539
I'm going to be changing the world out here.

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Quincy, like, I'm going to be like that TV dad,

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but I'm actually going to be in person with it.

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You know what I mean? Or that, you know what

00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:20.420
I mean? That sibling, that one person that. That

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was missing out of people's lives. That's going

00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.519
to be me, man. That's going to be me. That's

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deep. You could have went anywhere with that,

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bro. I finally paid attention to my calling,

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man. I'm doing the lowest work, bro. This business,

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Pablo, I'm just realizing. I'm finally realizing.

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That's why we're giving people like you people

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like you need platforms, bro. You know, people

00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.740
like you need platforms because the heart, the

00:21:56.740 --> 00:21:58.220
heart real, you know what I'm saying? I could

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tell you got to go, you know, a great heart,

00:22:00.980 --> 00:22:06.079
man. And, you know, let's get into your personal

00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:09.019
life. So how how do you juggle your personal

00:22:09.019 --> 00:22:11.700
life with the music? Like talking to the people

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out there that does, you know, entertainment

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and deal with, you know, the cost of. putting

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into the studio time and the beats and stuff

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like um do you have other jobs outside how do

00:22:23.539 --> 00:22:26.680
you juggle family let's get into that part yeah

00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:31.220
yeah yeah absolutely so um i do i do like i'm

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i'm strictly entrepreneur i got like some caregiving

00:22:35.380 --> 00:22:39.700
gigs that i do and i got like 1099 work but i

00:22:39.700 --> 00:22:43.259
strictly um you know i get i get i got a few

00:22:43.259 --> 00:22:45.859
clients i just started doing a content creation

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I got a few clients with that. I actually help

00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:54.359
people find grants. I'm actually in the grant

00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:57.859
community learning how to actually write grants.

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Anything not finalized yet, but I help people

00:23:01.099 --> 00:23:04.240
go in the right directions to find the local

00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:07.660
grants. So I get a little kickback on that. I

00:23:07.660 --> 00:23:11.779
actually get paid to help people structure their

00:23:11.779 --> 00:23:14.339
business the correct way. I get a little kickback

00:23:14.339 --> 00:23:17.339
on that. Some referral. Majority of it be the

00:23:17.339 --> 00:23:21.259
referral part, then some of it be me actually

00:23:21.259 --> 00:23:26.319
doing the hands -on with them. I'm currently

00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:31.660
married. I'm married. Okay, you married? How

00:23:31.660 --> 00:23:33.680
long? How long you been a married man? We've

00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:36.640
been married for... She'd kill me if she see

00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:43.259
this. I was. We've been married for three years,

00:23:43.339 --> 00:23:45.500
but we've been together for five. You know what

00:23:45.500 --> 00:23:47.759
I mean? Yeah. Get it right. I had to, I had to,

00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:51.140
I had to glance at the plant real quick. That's

00:23:51.140 --> 00:23:56.339
why I keep that day. But, um, and like the, the

00:23:56.339 --> 00:23:59.680
reason why like business and personal life don't

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collide because I communicate, I like my wife

00:24:03.460 --> 00:24:05.279
in a way thing that's going on. You know what

00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:08.599
I mean? Right. So it's like, like if, if, if

00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.440
something was, if, if something was missed, she

00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.000
forgot, you know what I mean? By mistake. You

00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:18.680
know what I mean? But, like, as far as it ever

00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:21.420
being a problem, like, it be time that I got

00:24:21.420 --> 00:24:24.799
to go out of town and stay. You know, because

00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:26.839
I be like, yo, I'm on business. Like, I'm going,

00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:29.319
if this a weekend event, I'm going both days.

00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:32.579
So, you know, so I might not come back. But I

00:24:32.579 --> 00:24:35.240
communicated, I communicated with her. You know

00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:38.579
what I mean? Like, whatever I know, she know.

00:24:39.210 --> 00:24:42.029
how are the shows man how like you are you booked

00:24:42.029 --> 00:24:45.609
a lot man like what kind of how that show money

00:24:45.609 --> 00:24:49.609
look are you booked are you well we just started

00:24:49.609 --> 00:24:53.869
transitioning over to actually getting a show

00:24:53.869 --> 00:24:59.190
we just getting it oh i'm still yeah i'm still

00:24:59.190 --> 00:25:01.390
seasoned like i don't turn away opportunities

00:25:01.390 --> 00:25:06.519
so If it's an opportunity and I can't make it,

00:25:06.539 --> 00:25:08.660
I'm going to pass the opportunity off. Like if

00:25:08.660 --> 00:25:12.319
the artist, I got like some real go -to artists

00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:15.619
that I go to. And there's one in particular that

00:25:15.619 --> 00:25:18.160
I took under my wing. So I'm constantly like,

00:25:18.220 --> 00:25:22.240
I'm not turning away opportunities that we have

00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:25.680
to invest in. Because I feel like that's all,

00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:28.440
like you invest in yourself, never get old. There's

00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.940
never too much investing in yourself. You know

00:25:30.940 --> 00:25:33.460
what I mean? Now, what you do with the investment

00:25:33.460 --> 00:25:37.440
that you made, that's where it gets a little

00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:42.819
technical. So the opportunity, like, okay, Philly,

00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:45.759
you know, you say it's a lot of opportunity down

00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.940
there, show -wise, you know, for anybody that

00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:51.000
want to move to Philly, would you encourage that,

00:25:51.059 --> 00:25:54.920
like, entertainment -wise? What would you say?

00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:58.420
Yeah, yeah, I would encourage that. But before,

00:25:58.819 --> 00:26:03.730
I would... I would jump into that. I will meet

00:26:03.730 --> 00:26:08.490
the right hoops first. So I will build up that

00:26:08.490 --> 00:26:11.029
relationship. And I will say that anywhere, for

00:26:11.029 --> 00:26:14.109
anywhere you go at. I wouldn't just dive into

00:26:14.109 --> 00:26:17.670
the next show coming up. You know what I mean?

00:26:17.750 --> 00:26:21.329
I would do some homework on these shows. And

00:26:21.329 --> 00:26:24.990
don't get me wrong, man. Like, it's a lot of

00:26:24.990 --> 00:26:29.170
shows here that allow any kind, whatever talent

00:26:29.170 --> 00:26:32.640
that you have. And there's so many young entrepreneurs.

00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.240
And when I say young, I mean their business is

00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.240
young. But there's so many young upcoming entrepreneurs

00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:43.579
that's in to all this showcasing. It's amazing,

00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:49.160
man. It's just with Philly, with the city, I

00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:56.799
find myself having to bring a lot of the connection

00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.039
part. Cause networking is like 90 % of the business.

00:27:00.140 --> 00:27:04.619
So with Philly, I noticed that we, we had connect

00:27:04.619 --> 00:27:07.039
at these artists showcases and it stayed here.

00:27:07.339 --> 00:27:10.720
Like nobody is like on a phone outside of where

00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.640
they met building up that relationship. You know

00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:17.039
what I mean? It's, it's like both parties is

00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:19.599
waiting on the party to reach out to them. So

00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.400
what I decided to do was I decided to go on out

00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.339
where, where that, that. That is done differently.

00:27:27.420 --> 00:27:31.680
Like we meet, if we met at a showcase, I'm in

00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:33.839
contact with them individuals that I exchanged

00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.740
information with. That's right. I'll bring that

00:27:36.740 --> 00:27:39.480
back to the city. Cause you know, like the missing

00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.220
pieces, I don't dog it. I don't dog my city because

00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:45.220
something, I acknowledge that shit. Yeah. Get

00:27:45.220 --> 00:27:48.299
it and show them how it is. Like, you know, instead

00:27:48.299 --> 00:27:51.359
of just telling them, I like to show them. So

00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.700
that's what. That's what we missing. We missing

00:27:54.700 --> 00:27:57.019
those different makers. That's just going to

00:27:57.019 --> 00:27:58.339
be like, man, I'm going to show you better. I

00:27:58.339 --> 00:28:00.680
can tell you. Cause it's one thing to build up

00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.400
this success somewhere else and just stay gone.

00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.079
Like I had to figure this out. Like, no, I ain't

00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:10.819
like, I had the attitude before, but I'm like,

00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.339
what about the people that don't know how to

00:28:13.339 --> 00:28:15.049
do that? You know what I mean? That's hungry.

00:28:15.190 --> 00:28:16.890
That's hungry. That probably had the heart like

00:28:16.890 --> 00:28:18.609
you. You know what I'm saying? That's how that

00:28:18.609 --> 00:28:20.470
God is, right? They just ain't met the right

00:28:20.470 --> 00:28:22.970
people. They haven't been schooled the right

00:28:22.970 --> 00:28:25.869
way. They wasn't told what to do or shown what

00:28:25.869 --> 00:28:28.630
to do. Reach one, teach one, brother. You know,

00:28:28.670 --> 00:28:31.809
reach one, teach one. Exactly. It says that,

00:28:31.869 --> 00:28:34.369
man. As you're blessed, you should bless somebody

00:28:34.369 --> 00:28:36.650
else, man, and bless others. You know what I'm

00:28:36.650 --> 00:28:41.589
saying? And that's where a lot of the gatekeeping.

00:28:42.299 --> 00:28:44.900
comes and play it like it's a lot of that because

00:28:44.900 --> 00:28:48.599
you know you have individuals under under the

00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.480
mindset like you know no I mean it it ain't gatekeeping

00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.160
I had to do what I had to do to get it you know

00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:56.799
I mean they got to do the same thing which is

00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:01.019
I understand I just gotta you know I go a different

00:29:01.019 --> 00:29:03.539
way about it you know I mean and that's not to

00:29:03.539 --> 00:29:06.839
put any you know throw any shade on the individual

00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:09.880
that's your story that's you that's you you know

00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.980
what I mean You can't speak on nobody else. It's

00:29:12.980 --> 00:29:16.059
you. You feel me? I get a lot. No, I get a, I

00:29:16.059 --> 00:29:18.980
get a lot of, man, what's I'm talking to you?

00:29:19.019 --> 00:29:22.660
You know what I mean? Hey, listen, man, like

00:29:22.660 --> 00:29:25.559
I, I have, I have a different motive. You know

00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:28.200
what I mean? I was like, I'm more, I'm, I'm good

00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:32.099
with individual capitalizing off some information

00:29:32.099 --> 00:29:34.660
I gave them and they look back. I'm good with

00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:37.319
that. Right. You know what I mean? Supposed to

00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.180
an individual, like I looked out and he, He ain't

00:29:41.180 --> 00:29:44.160
cash at me. You know, like, I don't even think

00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.599
about that, bro. I think about, like. And you're

00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.240
going to get yours regardless. You're always

00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.579
going to ruin so much more better because you

00:29:52.579 --> 00:29:55.420
had them good intentions and you ruined that

00:29:55.420 --> 00:29:58.339
individual one. Like, take off. He did exactly

00:29:58.339 --> 00:30:00.519
what he's supposed to do. You know what I mean?

00:30:00.940 --> 00:30:03.240
So, hey, I got to throw this in. How the city

00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:05.799
been? You know, Philly brought that ring, brought

00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.079
the championships. You know, how Philly been,

00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.680
man? Yo, you know, it gave so much confidence

00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.579
in us that we would do it again. Because we went

00:30:15.579 --> 00:30:19.759
back to the Super Bowl twice, like a year and

00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.579
a half or four. Then we got it. Then we got it.

00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.319
Then we crushed the same opponents that took

00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:28.019
it from us. So the city is under. That's what

00:30:28.019 --> 00:30:29.819
the city under. That's the impression they under.

00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.059
We about to repeat. I just don't want to call

00:30:33.059 --> 00:30:38.329
that. Y 'all looking good. Every time on paper,

00:30:38.450 --> 00:30:40.509
y 'all looking good, man. Y 'all looking good.

00:30:40.809 --> 00:30:43.910
I got to give credit where it's due. I feel like

00:30:43.910 --> 00:30:49.670
one of the things that, because I'm a sports

00:30:49.670 --> 00:30:51.670
fanatic, especially when it comes to football,

00:30:51.930 --> 00:30:54.970
and I talk to a lot of people. One of the biggest

00:30:54.970 --> 00:30:59.690
things, one of the biggest freaking things that

00:30:59.690 --> 00:31:01.910
I acknowledge is that that defensive coordinator.

00:31:03.049 --> 00:31:05.970
could have got a kid coaching guy like our our

00:31:05.970 --> 00:31:09.470
office of coordinator just took off yo Vic Vandio

00:31:09.470 --> 00:31:12.470
could have he got over some big money man but

00:31:12.470 --> 00:31:14.369
he decided to be on the defensive side of ball

00:31:14.369 --> 00:31:17.670
stay on the defensive side of ball here so that

00:31:17.670 --> 00:31:21.589
like that right there that's me by you man you

00:31:21.589 --> 00:31:25.390
know I mean like yo he dedicated he dedicated

00:31:25.390 --> 00:31:28.490
so you know that's that's the type of city be

00:31:28.490 --> 00:31:31.500
looking for like like that loyalty to the city

00:31:31.500 --> 00:31:34.680
you know what i mean yeah yeah hey and i gotta

00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.319
throw this in man philly you you brought him

00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.960
up man gilly wallow man are these brothers they

00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.819
really out there in philly giving back man um

00:31:42.819 --> 00:31:45.700
are these like you know because are they real

00:31:45.700 --> 00:31:48.079
like in person like like i don't know if you

00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.640
met him or you know i haven't had the opportunity

00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:57.140
to meet him in person um i i haven't heard anything

00:31:57.140 --> 00:32:02.569
negative about him me, the outside looking in,

00:32:02.690 --> 00:32:06.069
I feel like they're creating a lot of lanes in

00:32:06.069 --> 00:32:08.650
the city. One of the things that stood out to

00:32:08.650 --> 00:32:12.630
me was a vent that they had. I don't know if

00:32:12.630 --> 00:32:14.829
Wallo and Gilly was a part, but I know Wallo

00:32:14.829 --> 00:32:17.369
was there and he was introducing the speaker

00:32:17.369 --> 00:32:21.809
and the speaker was speaking vile and to the

00:32:21.809 --> 00:32:25.329
ground. I can't remember exactly what the topic

00:32:25.329 --> 00:32:30.029
was, but There was a lot of conversation going

00:32:30.029 --> 00:32:34.130
on in the crowd. And Wallo addressed that. That

00:32:34.130 --> 00:32:36.670
right there, I felt like he addressed it. He

00:32:36.670 --> 00:32:40.349
was disappointed with that because he like, here

00:32:40.349 --> 00:32:44.450
it is. Y 'all complain about people giving back

00:32:44.450 --> 00:32:47.069
to the city, bringing game to the city. But y

00:32:47.069 --> 00:32:50.349
'all in here having a whole sidebar when somebody

00:32:50.349 --> 00:32:52.089
up here about to speak. You know what I mean?

00:32:52.109 --> 00:32:54.730
Ain't nobody paying attention. So he really like.

00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:58.960
he really went in on that. And that was like

00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.279
some of the best content that ever stood out

00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.319
for me for a while. And, you know, he always

00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.140
had some positive, a positive message to give

00:33:08.140 --> 00:33:10.640
to the people. And I ask you that because the

00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.740
person you are, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely.

00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.240
Yeah, I automatically attracted that. So I don't

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.880
get, like me personally, I could have just seen

00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.859
just that for a while. Like one thing, one motivated

00:33:21.859 --> 00:33:24.759
message for a while. And I'm automatically like,

00:33:25.019 --> 00:33:28.519
Yeah, I like it. You know what I mean? I like

00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:33.440
it. Because it's one. That shit mean a lot, man.

00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:38.819
Pouring that positive energy through, like, verbally.

00:33:38.940 --> 00:33:40.660
That shit mean something, man. You know what

00:33:40.660 --> 00:33:43.700
I mean? That shit mean something. And it show

00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:45.799
you you can do anything, man. Change your life,

00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.440
man. Autumn years behind bars, bro. You know,

00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.480
and look at him now. Millionaire. Probably on

00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:55.500
the way to a billionaire. You never know. Anything,

00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:57.619
man, you want to I don't want to leave nothing

00:33:57.619 --> 00:34:01.160
off, man. I want you to the floor is yours right

00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:04.019
now. Anything you want the people to know. I

00:34:04.019 --> 00:34:07.079
really enjoyed this interview, man. Like, seriously,

00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.260
man, this is I really enjoyed it. I'm going to

00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:12.599
check you out even more after we finish this,

00:34:12.699 --> 00:34:17.659
man. Right. Right. Right. Right. So is there

00:34:17.659 --> 00:34:19.420
anything you want to tell the people, man, that

00:34:19.420 --> 00:34:24.570
we ain't touch on? Oh, yeah. We touched on everything,

00:34:24.750 --> 00:34:26.510
but I just want to leave the people a message,

00:34:26.610 --> 00:34:31.869
man, to stay inspired. Stay inspired and don't

00:34:31.869 --> 00:34:35.650
let distractions stay distractions, man. Whatever

00:34:35.650 --> 00:34:38.550
your goal is, your dream is, you stay locked

00:34:38.550 --> 00:34:42.769
in on your passion and on whatever you're after.

00:34:42.989 --> 00:34:45.730
And don't allow distractions to take you off

00:34:45.730 --> 00:34:48.010
course. You know, we're going to have some bumpy

00:34:48.010 --> 00:34:50.760
roads, man. We got to push through that shit.

00:34:50.820 --> 00:34:53.380
We got to let them distractions just be a little

00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:55.679
quick moment. Learn from it, keep it moving.

00:34:55.980 --> 00:34:58.420
You know what I mean? So that's what I wanted

00:34:58.420 --> 00:35:00.440
to leave to our people, like give our people

00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:05.519
and tap in with me, man. Yeah, yeah. Where can

00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.380
they find you? Where can they find you? Where

00:35:07.380 --> 00:35:09.760
can they find you? Drop all your contacts. Hey,

00:35:09.780 --> 00:35:15.360
y 'all can find me on Instagram at l .croc .official.

00:35:16.460 --> 00:35:18.940
Y 'all can actually get through me to the business

00:35:18.940 --> 00:35:23.619
page as well at get .right .entertainment. You

00:35:23.619 --> 00:35:25.800
know, I get the message through them as well.

00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:29.780
Y 'all can go to the website, getrightentertainment

00:35:29.780 --> 00:35:32.699
.com. It's just E -N -T. It's abbreviated. Entertainment

00:35:32.699 --> 00:35:37.119
is abbreviated. And, man, like, that L .Crock

00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.920
official is, like, everywhere. I keep it the

00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.519
same way on every platform. You know what I mean?

00:35:45.059 --> 00:35:47.099
If there's something different, I'll just remove

00:35:47.099 --> 00:35:50.420
the dots. But it's L .Crock Official or L .Crock

00:35:50.420 --> 00:35:52.940
Official on all platforms, man. Y 'all can find

00:35:52.940 --> 00:35:55.099
me. Y 'all can find me. That's what's up. That's

00:35:55.099 --> 00:35:58.000
what's up. Absolutely, man. Hey, man, I appreciate

00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.039
you, man, being on this show, man. More blessings

00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.800
come your way, man. You know, I love to see people

00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.360
like you win, brother. Appreciate it. We're going

00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.699
to link in. This ain't the last time. Y 'all

00:36:09.699 --> 00:36:12.960
keep the faith, man, and believe in yourselves.

00:36:13.659 --> 00:36:16.800
Thank y 'all again for tuning in to another episode

00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.699
of Not Just Music Podcast, where we keep it real

00:36:19.699 --> 00:36:23.679
and honest, always. Yes, Lord. Salute, my guy.